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sarge · 12-12-2006, 05:00 PM

If that is what they did, sounds like good game planning to me!

***PATSNUTme*** · 12-12-2006, 05:20 PM

CHEATING BASTARDS!!

I think that I said tht in one of the two threads about this that was posted yesterday.

chris_in_sunnyvale · 12-12-2006, 06:24 PM

I think it was in 2001 when the Raiders went into Indy and deciphered Manning's audibles *during the game*. MLB Greg Biekert was the culprit. After halftime, the Raiders defense completely shut down the Colts and the Raiders won going away.

In the Raiders/Tampa Super Bowl, Raiders coach Callahan kept the same audibles that Gruden has used the year prior. Gruden's Tampa defense knew exactly what Rich Gannon was doing as the Raiders stunk up the joint.

It was our own Willie McGinest who recognized Peyton's hand-waving meant Edge was getting the ball on 4th down in "The Stop" in that critical game in 2003.

You want to call this cheating? Fine, whatever. It's not new and it's going to continue. It won't be long before someone starts monitoring the QB helmet radio communication and relays the info to the D. The key is to always be ahead of the game. Fake 'em out. Heck, Peyton even did this in the 2004 opener by doing the same hand-wave on 3rd and short, causing McGinest to chase Edge into the line as Manning faked the handoff and ran the naked bootleg for 20 yards right where McGinest vacated. Imagine what the Pats could have done if they suspected Miami stole their audibles? They could have taken them for a ride. I consider what Miami did (and making it public) a favor to the Pats because from now on the Pats won't be so stupid to continue with the same audible system, waiting to be taken advantage of by a playoff opponent.

Regards,
Chris

***BelichickFan*** · 12-12-2006, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by sarge

If that is what they did, sounds like good game planning to me!

Evidently it is considered "cheating" if you purchase the audio, whatever that means. Versus figuring it out from what you can see on TV. That's what Salisbury said and that ex DB who's on ESPNews. They would know better than me I guess.

lobster · 12-12-2006, 09:43 PM

The Commissioner has the authority under the "Unfair Acts" section to investigate anything "outside the accepted tactics encountered in professional football". He can penalize a team or even reverse the win.

Welker83 · 12-12-2006, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by chris_in_sunnyvale

I think it was in 2001 when the Raiders went into Indy and deciphered Manning's audibles *during the game*. MLB Greg Biekert was the culprit. After halftime, the Raiders defense completely shut down the Colts and the Raiders won going away.

In the Raiders/Tampa Super Bowl, Raiders coach Callahan kept the same audibles that Gruden has used the year prior. Gruden's Tampa defense knew exactly what Rich Gannon was doing as the Raiders stunk up the joint.

It was our own Willie McGinest who recognized Peyton's hand-waving meant Edge was getting the ball on 4th down in "The Stop" in that critical game in 2003.

You want to call this cheating? Fine, whatever. It's not new and it's going to continue. It won't be long before someone starts monitoring the QB helmet radio communication and relays the info to the D. The key is to always be ahead of the game. Fake 'em out. Heck, Peyton even did this in the 2004 opener by doing the same hand-wave on 3rd and short, causing McGinest to chase Edge into the line as Manning faked the handoff and ran the naked bootleg for 20 yards right where McGinest vacated. Imagine what the Pats could have done if they suspected Miami stole their audibles? They could have taken them for a ride. I consider what Miami did (and making it public) a favor to the Pats because from now on the Pats won't be so stupid to continue with the same audible system, waiting to be taken advantage of by a playoff opponent.

Regards,
Chris

I remember a tampa game this year where rich gannon did the broadcast..he was calling plays before they were happening because gruden was still using some audibles from before...

***PatsDeb*** · 12-12-2006, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by lobster

The Commissioner has the authority under the "Unfair Acts" section to investigate anything "outside the accepted tactics encountered in professional football". He can penalize a team or even reverse the win.

Let's lobby for this! Think it will work?!

***Aqua4Ever04*** · 12-13-2006, 01:52 AM

Don't complain because our coach is smart and out prepared Belichick. You got beat fair and square. Just accept that ass whooping you took and move on.

edgecy · 12-13-2006, 01:58 AM

Yeah.. I kinda agree with Aqua... this is just a bunch of sour grapes..

***Aqua4Ever04*** · 12-13-2006, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by edgecy

Yeah.. I kinda agree with Aqua... this is just a bunch of sour grapes..

Yeah, you know damn right that if Belichick had the oppertunity to do this, he would be all over it. What coach isn't looking to get an edge? Every single coach in football would do this if he could. Just Saban doing his job.