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ProFootball Weekly: There is still a decent chance Mankins plays this year
From their whispers column:
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The ship has not sailed on OG Logan Mankins playing for the team this year, we hear. Although Mankins is stubborn and the team and his representatives have not had any serious negotiations since May, there is this to consider: Mankins is a football player. And, we hear, the bottom line is that he's not likely to give up $3.27 million this season by choosing not to play this season when all is said and done. So far, the team's lead negotiator in this case has been Floyd Reese, but it's possible that Bill Belichick could act as a closer and get involved late in the process of trying to get Mankins back with the team. Mankins' presence becomes an even greater priority with the report that his potential replacement, Nick Kaczur, may miss the entire season after undergoing back surgery.
Also from their whispers:
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The Patriots could have several tough roster decisions. One team observer thinks FS James Sanders and RB BenJarvus Green-Ellis might be squeezed out in a roster crunch but could offer minimal trade value in return from a needy club.
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Re: Profootball Weekly: There is still a decent chance Mankins plays this year
I don't think they'd cut Sanders at all. A trade is more likely.. And the Bengals are hurting at Safety with Gibril Wilson going down. But the Cardinals and Rams could also be options. The only problem is that trading Sanders really hurts the depth at Safety as McGowan proved to wear down last year.
Re: Profootball Weekly: There is still a decent chance Mankins plays this year
I don't think I'd be big on a Sanders trade. He's a rather ordinary player, and undeniably now an overpaid player, but he has value to us. This team uses 3 safeties a fair amount, and you need depth at that position to do that.
Mankins and his agent would have to be morons to walk away this season with $0. Next season may be a wash, so he'd be going two years without a paycheck. That's not smart. Of course, I think Mankins and his agent have both shown themselves to be pretty amateurish at this so far, so nothing would surprise me.
Re: Profootball Weekly: There is still a decent chance Mankins plays this year
What does "we hear" mean?
Anyhow, were the Pats to reopen the door, changing the negotiator is usually a good move, not that Reese isn't the right guy to have been doing the negotiations, but when you're stalled at an ongoing impass with neither party offering a new deal, something else then needs to change. I've never been against the Pats maning up and offering the olive branch even though Logan did the bad mothing. BFD. The fence mending will be done in private. However, I'm not optimistic about a settlement since I believe that the Pats have changed their thinking and would not be as $ generous as their final 'best' offer. Perhaps a one year deal at some nice number of millions where Logan has the option to become a UFA or to collect a 2011 contract/ bonus should he be hurt this season. What do I know?
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Re: Profootball Weekly: There is still a decent chance Mankins plays this year
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Perhaps a one year deal at some nice number of millions where Logan has the option to become a UFA or to collect a 2011 contract/ bonus should he be hurt this season. What do I know?
I think that's the way to go, minus the bonus for getting hurt. I don't think that's ever a good idea - an incentive for failure to play. Besides, given how insincere Mankins and his agent have seemed thus far in their dealings, I wouldn't trust him with that kind of incentive. What's to stop him from faking/exaggerating an injury?
But in general, I think giving him a raise for this year seems like the fair thing for both parties involved.
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Re: Profootball Weekly: There is still a decent chance Mankins plays this year
HOW GOOD IS THE ANALYSIS?
It starts by saying that Mankins is passing up $3.27M which is the tender that was the tender amount before the team's reduction.
Re: Profootball Weekly: There is still a decent chance Mankins plays this year
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HOW GOOD IS THE ANALYSIS?
It starts by saying that Mankins is passing up $3.27M which is the tender that was the tender amount before the team's reduction.
That's right. He is not going to make that amount, only the reduced tender of $1.54 million.
Re: Profootball Weekly: There is still a decent chance Mankins plays this year
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Originally Posted by BradyManny
I think that's the way to go, minus the bonus for getting hurt. I don't think that's ever a good idea - an incentive for failure to play. Besides, given how insincere Mankins and his agent have seemed thus far in their dealings, I wouldn't trust him with that kind of incentive. What's to stop him from faking an injury?
What's to stop anyone? Doctors. And the fact that he'd opt for FA instead of staying on the 2011 Pats roster for $5M bonus or whatever.
The point being and I'm not married to it, that a guy signing a one year contract risks his entire CAREER should he get injured that one season. Need to offset that risk by a roster bonus due next March. I'm an uninformed amateur here. The Pats would know what they could do legally and in reality.
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ProFootball Weekly: There is still a decent chance Mankins plays this year
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