Jacky Roberts

Assuming there is no Moss deal, it seems to me that Belichick and the Patriots are becoming far too arrogant. This "we can win with anyone on our roster" thing is getting thin.

The bottom line is the Pats are winning because of Tom Brady and a strong defensive line. The fact they won Super Bowls with Antoine Smith as RB and defensive backs like Hank Poteat and Randall Gay have, in my opinion, tainted this team to think they dont need great athletes to win championships.

The fact that this team is so far under the cap, desperately needs a WR, and is willing to walk away from getting a big time receiver in Moss has me wondering if BB has started drinking his own Kool-Aid. They lose the russian roulette battle with Branch, can't get their rookie WR on the field, but yet, they appear to be doing nothing. What gives? Brady deserves better in my opinion.

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Oswlek

I know. I would much rather have a team like Indy where they have no defense.

Or maybe a team that spends money to bring in great players like Washington.

Or maybe a team like Philly that has no running game.

Or maybe a team that has great WRs like Dallas, cause if you have WRs that guarantees victories. Why else do you think Detroit has been taking them for these past few years?

Or maybe a team like Baltimore that has a recent #1 WR, another very good one that NE wanted and a former rushing champ as well as MVP QB. That offense must be good.

Or we could cheer for a team like Denver that is willing to pay money for their WRs unlike NE who was too cheap to pay Walker his money. With their running game, that has the makings of a dominant offense.

OR we could just get on the bandwagon with all the people who said that Miami would take advantage of NE's arrogance and propel themselves to an AFCE crown. That is coming any day now, so we might as well sell high and buy low.


Give me a break.

RayClay

We've won 3 of the last 5 Super Bowls.

What is your argument? I'm confused.

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satz

Yeah it sucks to be 0-5 like us.....All their arrogance has made us a such a lossing team.

lets work out a trade and get rid of bills contract on a condition he sign with the raiders and send piolli as too as he sucks as well....

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patchick

How do you get that "willing to walk away" from the current reports that suggest that the Patriots did pursue Moss but Al Davis won't make a deal?

mgcolby

For anyone who was confused by my post Friday night, this is exactly what I was talking about!

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Mainefan

"The fact they won Super Bowls with Antoine Smith as RB and defensive backs like Hank Poteat and Randall Gay have, in my opinion, tainted this team to think they dont need great athletes to win championships." --Jacky Roberts

Let me see if I understand this right. They won Super Bowls with Smith, Poteat and Gay and that has led them to think they can win Super Bowls without great athletes.

That's kind of like saying they rode their bicycle at 50 mph, which led them to believe they could ride their bicycle at 50 mph.

Well, yeah.

I understand what you mean MgColby, but if a man yearns to look foolish, it's hard to stop him.

MoLewisrocks

The reports don't even suggest that. They suggest that league sources thought it would be a good idea if we did persue him.

And as for Jacky he should just go find himself another team. Maybe he should start rooting for the Redskins, a team who understands it's all about accumulating talent, baby! At least for fantasy football fans.

satz

maine fan with your permission i am stealing that for my sign

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PatsDeb

I don't think they are arrogant at all. They are calculating. They know (like every other team should) that they cannot have the best player at every position, so they try to get guys at every position that they can win with. They try not to overpay for anyone as they are trying to have decent players everywhere. BB is a great coach, so some of his "okay" guys become great players under his tutilege and leave when the Pats don't pony up the top dollar. Obviously BB knows this will happen, so he keeps the guys he can (and is willing to pay top dollar for a few he knows he can't win without (Seymour & Brady)) and looks for more okay guys to come in when, inevitably, some of the guys who have become "great" leave. It is a calculated formula that has worked for him for some time. It is not arrogance. I am sure he sits there every year and wonders if he has the right guys in place to take him where he wants to go.

Frankly, I for one have not seen one credible shred of evidence the Pats have actually pursued Moss. Do we really want him? He has tremendous upside on the field, but tremendous downside off it (including the fact that he actually leaves the field during the game once in a while when he doesn't like what's happening on it). I don't think he'd fit in here and I don't think BB would want him under his calculated formula.