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Old 10-16-2006, 02:18 PM   #1
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At times, I have been critical of BB and Pioli's personnel moves, I'm just naturally wired not to drink the kool-aid. But one look at the Dolphins and you can help but be reminded of how just one single decision can destroy your team for maybe years.

Drew Brees is a star and virtually some kind of spiritual leader in New Orleans as he makes believers out of nearly the whole country with his 5-1 Saints. The Saints have a fiery coach who conspired with the FO to nab Brees the second Miami hesitated and the team has the big-time leader at QB it has been missing for years.

Meanwhile, Culpepper is back in re-hab after his horrendous showing in the early season seems to be a continuation of his poor play before his knee injury. The Dolphins balked on Brees and instead coughed up a high draft pick (2nd) for a walking nightmare. A move which will likely haunt the team until they invest a first round pick on a kid QB in the draft and wait the year or two it takes to get rookies online. Harrington was obtained for another pick (6th round) but clearly is the same guy who has a fire but throws too many INTS. No one can see a SB QB in him, sorry.

So, Brees is a star and Culpepper and Harrington have one win and are out of the playoffs already and the two will hold down the Dolphins for years. Imagine how the fans feel with the Miami FO. I wouldn't be happy, would you?

Now, imagine for a moment that BB hadn't been put his full faith and trust in Brady and instead put Bledsoe back in when he healed. Where would the Patriots be today? One crucial decision and the Pats are a dynasty. One crucial decision and the Fins pass on Brees for Culpepper and are likely doomed to mediocre teams for the next few years while the Saints at least have the makings of a team going someplace with Brees steering the ship.

Just like that and your team is either bound for glory or garbage. Scary...
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Old 10-16-2006, 02:26 PM   #2
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The Dolphin OL is so bad that I'm not sure they'd be good with Brees - but I'm glad we don't have to find out.
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First - both Brees and Culpepper sustained injury. At the time the decision was made - no one could predict who would heal first or when it would happen. Sabban rolled the dice and lost.

Second - Bellicheck watched Tom Brady in practice running his system for 2 full years and knew exactly what he had in Brady. Saban had to rely on film of players running a different system than his and coversations with coaches to understand each player.

In Bellicheck case it was an easy football decision to make - his problem was the PR nightmare if Brady did not progress fast enough so other could see what he saw. Saban did not have it as easy
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The Dolphin OL is so bad that I'm not sure they'd be good with Brees - but I'm glad we don't have to find out.
Agreed. The Dolphin's problems run deeper than just their QB.
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BBB,

Have a cup of kool aid, when BB brews it, it ain't that bad.
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Good point, but you need to extend it. Betting the house on big name free agents and splashy trades puts you in the high risk category.

Looks great when you hit big, but you collapse if not.

I wonder what the Dolphins would look like if they had used the 2 #1's and 2 #2's they spent on Ricky, Feeley and Culpepper?

Gus Frerotte isn't really a bad quarterback. Probably makes better decisions than Culpepper.

What if they showed some patience and kept him for a few years until they drafted and groomed someone?

Not much down side to that. Especially if they could have all the picks back.

Brown's a good runner, but he's not worth 3 #1's.

The Patriots make careful low risk moves that fans HATE until they work and are geniuses.

The highest risk bad move was probably Starks and I think we stole someone elses 3rd to replace it, (not sure).

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First - both Brees and Culpepper sustained injury. At the time the decision was made - no one could predict who would heal first or when it would happen. Sabban rolled the dice and lost.

Second - Bellicheck watched Tom Brady in practice running his system for 2 full years and knew exactly what he had in Brady. Saban had to rely on film of players running a different system than his and coversations with coaches to understand each player.

In Bellicheck case it was an easy football decision to make - his problem was the PR nightmare if Brady did not progress fast enough so other could see what he saw. Saban did not have it as easy
On your first point - well, Brees was playing like the star that he is when he got hurt and both Saban and the saints got the same up close look before deciding, so I hardly say it was just guessing. Saban chose a guy with character (love boat), poor play and injury issues, Brees was only battling injury.

Second point - practice success does not always mean game success by any measure. BB really didn't know what he had in Brady until after the first SB.

Your third point seems illogical. You say BB's decision was an easy "football" one, but then say he'd have had a "nightmare if Brady did not progress fast enough so others could see what he saw." Umm, if Brady didn't progress fast enough wouldn't that have been a bad "football" decision? By saying "Saban didn't have it as easy," you're suggesting that replacing Gus Ferotte was a trickier move than replacing the franchise QB, Bledsoe? Just wondering.
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All trade the farm for Moss and Porter posters please post here.
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Who is talking about trading the farm? I would offer the Raiders a first rounder (the Pats have two of them) for Moss and no higher than third rounder for Porter. How is that trading the farm?
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Who is talking about trading the farm? I would offer the Raiders a first rounder (the Pats have two of them) for Moss and no higher than third rounder for Porter. How is that trading the farm?
I was going to grow some linebackers and cornerbacks with those picks.

No seeds = no crops.

2#1's super star RickyWilliams = 0 now.

Are you saying Moss and Porter haven't shown character problems? Why risk those picks?

Also receivers on truly horrible teams have inflated numbers because teams are always behind so they're always throwing.

Teams that are ahead run the ball.
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Now, imagine for a moment that BB hadn't been put his full faith and trust in Brady and instead put Bledsoe back in when he healed. Where would the Patriots be today? One crucial decision and the Pats are a dynasty.
The thing being is that I don't think there was any real "decision" on the part of the Patriots staff. It's fairly well documented that it was only a matter of time before BB & staff would opt to replace Bledsoe with Brady had the injury not occurred, possibly in that next game or two if Bledsoe continued to be inefficient in leading the offense. And there is precedent for BB pulling a popular QB whom he felt was no longer on top of his game when he replaced Bernie with Vinnie during his Cleveland stint.
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