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***DarrylS*** · 10-16-2006, 04:55 PM

Have heard Saban say that the signing Culpepper was on the advice of Dolphins medical staff, find Saban is taking the low road and cannot imagine BB ever doing anything like this. Without regard it is a pee poor decision and will set his program back a couple of years, not sure Saban will last that long.

PonyExpress · 10-16-2006, 04:59 PM

A team can't make a mistake at two things: Head Coach and QB. Every other mistake can be overcome.

Brady'sButtBoy · 10-16-2006, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by PonyExpress

A team can't make a mistake at two things: Head Coach and QB. Every other mistake can be overcome.

Nice way to size things up. Have the 'Fins have made both of your deadly sins?

PonyExpress · 10-16-2006, 05:53 PM

BB says Saban is a great coach. I believe him. But it might take Saban two years to overcome the Culpepper debacle.

***psychoPat*** · 10-16-2006, 06:07 PM

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.... one look at the Dolphins and you can help but be reminded of how just one single decision can destroy your team for maybe years.

Drew Brees is a star and virtually some kind of spiritual leader in New Orleans as he makes believers out of nearly the whole country with his 5-1 Saints. The Saints have a fiery coach who conspired with the FO to nab Brees the second Miami hesitated and the team has the big-time leader at QB it has been missing for years.

Meanwhile, Culpepper is back in re-hab after his horrendous showing in the early season seems to be a continuation of his poor play before his knee injury. The Dolphins balked on Brees and instead coughed up a high draft pick (2nd) for a walking nightmare. A move which will likely haunt the team until they invest a first round pick on a kid QB in the draft and wait the year or two it takes to get rookies online. ....
So, Brees is a star and Culpepper and Harrington have one win and are out of the playoffs already and the two will hold down the Dolphins for years. Imagine how the fans feel with the Miami FO. I wouldn't be happy, would you?

Now, imagine for a moment that BB hadn't been put his full faith and trust in Brady and instead put Bledsoe back in when he healed. Where would the Patriots be today? One crucial decision and the Pats are a dynasty. One crucial decision and the Fins pass on Brees for Culpepper and are likely doomed to mediocre teams for the next few years .... Scary...

Nice juxtaposition
of two crucial, critical, decisive choices.

btw, LAPF, wasn't it ONE full year of TB, plus a game or two?

***alamo*** · 10-16-2006, 10:41 PM

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First - both Brees and Culpepper sustained injury. At the time the decision was made - no one could predict who would heal first or when it would happen. Sabban rolled the dice and lost.

The wrong decision he made was the first one, that it was important to pick the one who healed first rather than the one who would ultimately be better. There were enough red flags on Culpepper last season that it was simply wishful thinking that he would be the better choice when healthy. I agree picking QBs is something of a crapshoot, but the Dolphins themselves knew there was significant risk with Culpepper or they would not have picked up Harrington.

***Box_O_Rocks*** · 10-16-2006, 10:44 PM

Harrington was a good pick-up for a #2 QB.

***alamo*** · 10-16-2006, 11:12 PM

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Harrington was a good pick-up for a #2 QB.

I don't agree. The guy proved he couldn't play... I'd rather take a chance on an unproven guy with potential (i.e. take a Cassell over a Harrington). Teams usually insist on an "experienced guy" as #2 (no matter whether that experience is success or failure) when they think there's a great likelyhood that they will need that backup. The coach/GM doesn't look as bad.

PonyExpress · 10-16-2006, 11:32 PM

According to profootballreference.com's analysis, although Rick Mirer is the worst QB of ALL TIME, his flatulence was dispersed among several franchises. The QB in the history of football who the took the biggest steaming dump on a single franchise in pro football history was Joey Harrington on the blue lion logo. Harrington "hurt the Detroit Lions more than any other QB has ever hurt any other NFL team."http://www.pro-football-reference.co...ex.php?paged=3 (scroll down a bit)

skaIownsIyou · 10-16-2006, 11:52 PM

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Gus Frerotte isn't really a bad quarterback. Probably makes better decisions than Culpepper.

What if they showed some patience and kept him for a few years until they drafted and groomed someone?

Not much down side to that. Especially if they could have all the picks back.

Brown's a good runner, but he's not worth 3 #1's.

frerotte wasnt resigned to the dolphins b/c he didnt want to be resigned, he followed linehan to the rams...thats why he's in STL. instead of MIA.

as for brown...he's not ready to be the work horse of the dolphins....his whole career playing football, he's been playing a two back system....in his college days, he had cadillac williams with him...and the auburn (i thik thats brown's college) coach used a two back system with brown and williams....coming to the dolphins he had another williams....that is ricky williams...and saban also had a 2 back system....