Edgerrin James-Maybe the most overrated RB in history - New England Patriots Forums

PATRIOT64 · 10-04-2006, 02:13 AM

Well it took a trade for people to realize that Edgerrin James is the most overrated RB probably in NFL history..He rode the coattails of the Indy O-Line to get through big gaps they produced for him so often --no such thing now in Arizona-He has ZERO 100 yard games this year...Goes to show you its not exactly always how talented you are,its how your talent fits and is used on the team - Deion Branch & David Givens will be finding that out soon enough -It's Just like putting Peyton Manning behind Miami's front line and see him run for his life,even if Harrison and Wayne were on that team,his stats would drop quicker than the speed of light-When you play RB or QB its those 'no-name guys' on the o-line that count much more so than what people realize....I am so glad we have the awesome line we have protecting Brady's back (despite a few hurries and blind side hit fumbles here and there) . .Betcha Reggie Bush wishes he was behind our line instead of N.O. right now,he's getting swallowed up so far.

workhorse · 10-04-2006, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by PATRIOT64

Well it took a trade for people to realize that Edgerrin James is the most overrated RB probably in NFL history..He rode the coattails of the Indy O-Line to get through big gaps they produced for him so often --no such thing now in Arizona-He has ZERO 100 yard games this year...Goes to show you its not exactly always how talented you are,its how your talent fits and is used on the team - Deion Branch & David Givens will be finding that out soon enough -It's Just like putting Peyton Manning behind Miami's front line and see him run for his life,even if Harrison and Wayne were on that team,his stats would drop quicker than the speed of light-When you play RB or QB its those 'no-name guys' on the o-line that count much more so than what people realize....I am so glad we have the awesome line we have protecting Brady's back (despite a few hurries and blind side hit fumbles here and there) . .Betcha Reggie Bush wishes he was behind our line instead of N.O. right now,he's getting swallowed up so far.

I think you are going off the deep end a bit. I agree that you must have a good line up front, but Edge is by no means the most overrated in history. That line in Arizona is awful. You put any back behind that line and they would struggle.

mcsully · 10-04-2006, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by PATRIOT64

Well it took a trade for people to realize that Edgerrin James is the most overrated RB probably in NFL history..He rode the coattails of the Indy O-Line to get through big gaps they produced for him so often --no such thing now in Arizona-He has ZERO 100 yard games this year...Goes to show you its not exactly always how talented you are,its how your talent fits and is used on the team - Deion Branch & David Givens will be finding that out soon enough -It's Just like putting Peyton Manning behind Miami's front line and see him run for his life,even if Harrison and Wayne were on that team,his stats would drop quicker than the speed of light-When you play RB or QB its those 'no-name guys' on the o-line that count much more so than what people realize....I am so glad we have the awesome line we have protecting Brady's back (despite a few hurries and blind side hit fumbles here and there) . .Betcha Reggie Bush wishes he was behind our line instead of N.O. right now,he's getting swallowed up so far.

Wow. Talk about going off the deep end.. have you watched Warner drop the ball and the OL not open a single hole.. I recall the # 1 all time NFL rusher having issues running behind their line..
Edge is a top back.. The problem is he has no one helping him out. Look at the colts without him. They can't rush the ball at all.. So your agrument holds no credit.. Sorry, but Edge is great back.> he catches, blocks and runs....

NE39 · 10-04-2006, 05:36 AM

Edge is easily one of the best all-around running backs in the league. He is a great player, IMO. He is a great runner with patience and vision, and when he makes his cut he is tough to tackle. He slides off arm tackles and gets a lot of yards after contract. He catches the ball very well, and is great at blitz pickup.

He just has no room to run in Arizona. Their OL isn't getting the job done.

Remix 6 · 10-04-2006, 05:43 AM

okay then i guess Dillon was the most overrated aswell..wtf did he do last year with few injuries on the line and hmself?

LT didnt do aswell with a bad OL..his YPC average was low

a RB cant run without at least some running room..you cant expect him to go against 7 guys constantly in your face.

dhamz · 10-04-2006, 06:15 AM

He plays behind the worst offensive line in football and they are getting terrible QB play. It would take a miracle to get 100 yds in Arizona right now.

Once Leinart gets his feet wet and starts playing decent football, James will start putting up improved numbers but with that OL, he isn't going to have a huge year.

zoostation · 10-04-2006, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by workhorse

I think you are going off the deep end a bit. I agree that you must have a good line up front, but Edge is by no means the most overrated in history. That line in Arizona is awful. You put any back behind that line and they would struggle.

Sorry but I agree with this Colt troll.

The main reason he doesn't have a 100 yard game is because the Cards are always playing from behind.

Keegs · 10-04-2006, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by PATRIOT64

Well it took a trade for people to realize that Edgerrin James is the most overrated RB probably in NFL history..He rode the coattails of the Indy O-Line to get through big gaps they produced for him so often --no such thing now in Arizona-He has ZERO 100 yard games this year...Goes to show you its not exactly always how talented you are,its how your talent fits and is used on the team - Deion Branch & David Givens will be finding that out soon enough -It's Just like putting Peyton Manning behind Miami's front line and see him run for his life,even if Harrison and Wayne were on that team,his stats would drop quicker than the speed of light-When you play RB or QB its those 'no-name guys' on the o-line that count much more so than what people realize....I am so glad we have the awesome line we have protecting Brady's back (despite a few hurries and blind side hit fumbles here and there) . .Betcha Reggie Bush wishes he was behind our line instead of N.O. right now,he's getting swallowed up so far.

WHAT TRADE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

zippo59 · 10-04-2006, 07:26 AM

I have to somewhat agree. Edge is a very good back, but he is a jack of all trades, master of none. He's not particularly fast, or strong, or shifty. I think he is still a good back but his numbers were inflated by an Indy system with a good offensive line, very good receivers, and good, big number QB. He never had to deal with teams even remotely jamming the line of scrimmage. The Indy offense is a speed and attack offense which spreads the field making it easier for runners. I still think James is better than the backs Indy has now but I don't think he can be considered in the elite class of runningbacks in history like Jim Brown, Gale Sayers, Walter Peyton, Barry Sanders, Emmitt Smith, and Eric Dickerson.

Phokus · 10-04-2006, 07:28 AM

it amazes me how many coaches don't seem to understand that the majority of yards produced by an rb is due to the OL