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Statistics dont win games. Players making plays when the game is on the line does. To suggest a loss isnt really a loss because an unusual event occured is, well, stupid.
What are you blaming on Ryan that will change?
I think Sanchez is a bad QB.
See this is the problem with Jet fans.
Your logic is Sure Sanchez sucked. But that doesnt count because he was a rookie. Therefore I can say he is good, unless he sucks for 5 years.
There is a total absence of evidence that suggests that QB who play as awful as Sanchez did as a rookie (he was the 2nd worst starting QB in the NFL. The worst apparently was dfrug addicted and now is unemployed) are likely to become good QBs.
The fact is he was a terrible QB, noit because he was a rookie, but because of his skills, or lack thereof. It is what it is.
Thats OK though. Keep acting like Sanchez must be good because you hope real hard, that losses aren't really losses, and keep acting like you won this years SB until someone takes it away from you. You are afterall te self=annointed defending paper champs.
Statistics don't win games that is correct. However, you ask me what I saw in the regular season last year and I told you. Then I presented you with a source to indicate that I wasn't the only one to look at it that way.
Next you make it seem that the thought of a head coach getting better as he gains experience is foolish even though thats the nature of pretty much every profession.
Then you A) assume that I believe Sanchez is good right now B) Judge a rookie based on 1 season of play. Then you compare him to another quarterback who A) plays a different style B) has a different skill set C) has different work ethics D) was in his 3rd year. Actually Sanchez was on par with most rookie QBs in the last 25 years. Then you say Sanchez is bad because of his skillset which you can believe of course but not without also acknowledging that for most QBs the rookie/ first year starting year is usually an outlier.
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I can quote posters on this board and that has as much value as your Bleacher report source. I believe the challenge was to find someone who knows what they are talking about. If thats the best one you can find, that kind of speaks for itself, doesnt it?
I posted a link from a football expert claiming Brick is the best in the league already. That was discredited since it was Brian Baldinger who isn't credible apparently. So should I ask for a list of pre-approved "experts" who may or may not have made a list ranking o-linemen?
I posted a link from a football expert claiming Brick is the best in the league already. That was discredited since it was Brian Baldinger who isn't credible apparently. So should I ask for a list of pre-approved "experts" who may or may not have made a list ranking o-linemen?
Baldinger was one person, and only one person. The claim made was not that "someone thinks D'Bust is the best LT in the NFL".
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Baldinger was one person, and only one person. The claim made was not that "someone thinks D'Bust is the best LT in the NFL".
I'm trying to defend the statements of another, which was my first mistake, but I could find plenty of people who think Brick is top 5-6. I'd like you to find me sources that believe Matt Light is better than Brick.
That doesn't equal good depth. That means you have bodies to throw at the situation. The back up O-linemen on the Jets are pretty damn good and in general have had playing time over the last 2 years. Wayne Hunter, Robert Turner both of them can come into any position on the line and hold there own. Behind them you have two young guys Vlad Ducasse who is a talent but is raw and probably wouldn't be more than the third backup if he doesn't win the LG job. If he doesn't then Slauson would've earned it and may be performing at a high level.
Are the Jets the deepest team on the O-line? Hell no. But are their first two backups something to worry about? Not really they are solid hold the fort type guys.
Pats backups haven't been great either, no teams' backups, when they are all on the field.
Jets are extremely deep, ST's figures to be much improved with the talent they now have in the back end of the roster.
Jets are deep at RB, WR, CB, S, LB, FB, and have quality TE's with their #4 TE making a strong case to make the team.
Suggesting they could be in trouble because of lack of depth only shows your cluelessness.
Strong at RB, Grant you have 1 RB; and a guy who lost it last before season, and a barf-bucket change of pace never was guy. That's Deep? What is shallow?
You mean a five man Offensive line, with three starting Offensive linemen?
LMAO...ignorance is bliss. Was Revis a top 5 CB when he signed his rookie deal? The deal was front-loaded and he has cashed in plenty. he held out for the deal he signed. And you fault Tanny for making a deal that many considered to be creative and fair? You can't expect that someone is going to hold out with 3 years left on their deal, especially when they held out to get said deal. But, you can comtinue to be ignorant and say that was Tanny's fault.
Clueless
The Jets approached Revis post AFCC loss about doing a new deal and making things right. Why? Because his contract wasnt fair. But, do go on believing his contract is fair and creative. Its truly comical. Basically, Revis is being paid slightly more than his rookie season after a Pro Bowl season.
Its pretty common for NFL players to begin to pay dividends in year # 3. Fatso has been boasting for 2 years that Revis is the best defensive player that hes ever coached.
The Jets had a good feel for who they were drafting. They moved up to get him. Are you suggesting this is all a big shock that Revis is playing so good? Why pay him almost 8 mil in 2009 and only 2 mil in 2010? Why should Revis take a pay cut when his stock is rising?
Yes, you can expect a player to holdout with 3 years on a crappy deal like this. Especially, the way Leon Washington got kicked to he curb.
The Jets approached Revis post AFCC loss about doing a new deal and making things right. Why? Because his contract wasnt fair. But, do go on believing his contract is fair and creative. Its truly comical. Basically, Revis is being paid slightly more than his rookie season after a Pro Bowl season.
Its pretty common for NFL players to begin to pay dividends in year # 3. Fatso has been boasting for 2 years that Revis is the best defensive player that hes ever coached.
The Jets had a good feel for who they were drafting. They moved up to get him. Are you suggesting this is all a big shock that Revis is playing so good? Why pay him almost 8 mil in 2009 and only 2 mil in 2010? Why should Revis take a pay cut when his stock is rising?
Yes, you can expect a player to holdout with 3 years on a crappy deal like this. Especially, the way Leon Washington got kicked to he curb.
Tanny made this mess.
You can't call someone clueless and make this statement. You can't expect whoever it is you draft to become the best player at his position especially in 3 years. Even if you do, you can't structure or put together a contract for a rookie who was drafted 14th overall because you think he might be great. The Jets already gave Revis more money than his slot demanded to get him for 6 years so you're point is moot anyway.
Most contracts in the NFL are written with down years in them. The Jets approached Revis because they feel he's worth locking up long term. Revis took their approach to mean he should be paid the most in the NFL. The talks began as good faith negotiations on the part of the Jets since it didn't have to happen and Revis was still due 20 Million guaranteed after this season.
Demarcus Ware was due 1 million last year, that's not fair for a player of his calibur. Brady made just 3 million last year, that's also not fair value. The thing is NFL contracts for great players are pretty much guaranteed and most of them have down years, that doesn't mean a player should hold out everytime he hits a where is being paid less.
You can't call someone clueless and make this statement. You can't expect whoever it is you draft to become the best player at his position especially in 3 years. Even if you do, you can't structure or put together a contract for a rookie who was drafted 14th overall because you think he might be great. The Jets already gave Revis more money than his slot demanded to get him for 6 years so you're point is moot anyway.
Most contracts in the NFL are written with down years in them. The Jets approached Revis because they feel he's worth locking up long term. Revis took they're approach to meaning he should be paid the most in the NFL. The talks began as good faith negotiations on the part of the Jets since it didn't have to happen and Revis was still due 20 Million guaranteed after this season.
Demarcus Ware was due 1 million last year, that's not fair for a player of his calibur. Brady made just 3 million last year, that's also not fair value. The thing NFL contracts for great players are pretty much guaranteed and most of them have down years, that doesn't mean a player should hold out everytime he hits a down year.
Perhaps you should sit down and take a deep breath, and seriously reassess WHY you are a fan of the Green Beans. The whole Revis fiasco has been terribly mismanaged and your head coach is just as much to blame for it as Tannenbaum. The personnel philosophy of those two with Woody Johnson as idiot enabler has built a house of cards that's already begun teetering. Get out, save yourself now.
Uhh... no. Pats are better across the board. The Brady > Sanchez and Moss/Welker > Holmes/Edwards gaps are too big to say that the Jets have better starters.
Tim Graham disagrees.
"Most talented: Jets. The collection of players crackled at times. Maybe all the "Hard Knocks" cameras are bringing it out, but I saw more highlight-reel plays at SUNY Cortland than anywhere else."
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