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Old 09-26-2006, 10:13 PM   #1
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He's obviously having trouble getting the ball to receivers who are not open. His throwing is fine, as he demonstrates every game in at least one drive, but until he gets down the timing with the new receivers he won't have much success throwing deep and until the new receivers master more of the playbook, Brady won't have much success throwing shorter. When he throws high or low, I think it's to create an opportunity for the receiver, but not for the opponent. Brady is the least of our problems, and I have no doubt he's the best QB in the NFL.
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Old 09-26-2006, 10:49 PM   #2
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He's obviously having trouble getting the ball to receivers who aren't open. His throwing is fine, as he demonstrates every game in at least one drive, but until he gets down the timing with the new receivers he won't have much success throwing deep and until the new receivers master more of the playbook, Brady won't have much success throwing shorter. When he throws high or low, I think it's to create an opportunity for the receiver, but not for the opponent. Brady is the least of our problems, and I have no doubt he's the best QB in the NFL.
I can't believe the crap i read on here when it comes to brady and how he's "lost it"

or how cassel should play

what a crock of ****.

It's all fun and games making fun of his bad throws during the game in the chatroom, but to come on here after the game and make threads saying he is badly injured, no good anymore, or a worse option than cassel is just ridiculous.

If you are a pats fan, why would you post those things??

I can't believe it. After all the **** Tommy has done. You should be ashamed of yourselves if you post that garbage.
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Old 09-27-2006, 04:16 AM   #3
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Have been reading a lot about Brady this week and listening as well, not sure when but caught some stuff by Paul Perillo of Pats Weekly(who is pretty respectable) and he was very clear in his statement that Brady was not the problem, but it fell clearly on the receivers. You clearly need more the basic number to know the pass patterns and plays... it will get better, but this may be a side effect of Jacksons injury and Gabriels late trade to us.
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I have no doubt he's the best QB in the NFL either.

But by NO means did he even RESEMBLE an elite QB these first three games.
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Old 09-27-2006, 10:59 AM   #5
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It was a travesty to see Troy Brown and Reche Caldwell as our

two starting wide receivers on Sunday. No other NFL quarterback

could have done any better with this little talent. Based on two

blowouts in home exibition games, some forum members believed

we had a powerhouse offense despite our poor receiving corps.
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I have no doubt he's the best QB in the NFL either.

But by NO means did he even RESEMBLE an elite QB these first three games.

So you are making the assumption that this is HIS fault?

I'm not sure what games you've been watching then, if that's the case.

Anyone that can throw for over 3 hundred yards and not throw a pick against that D with THOSE WRs and no running game did not have a bad day.

It's the guys around him that were struggling, the OL included.

He had no time to throw, no one to throw to, and no running game. But still threw for 300 yards, a TD, and no picks. Get real!
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The criticisms of the recievers are crazy. You have some new guys who arent well known and havent been labeled as good players, and they're working their asses off to do well. And they are improving. I can see it from Caldwell and Gabriel showed his stuff on that second to last drive of the Pats Sunday. Jackson made a few great catches against the Jets. I'm not trying to say that they are doing everything perfect and it is all Brady's fault. Brady needs to learn his new recievers. If Brady cant do that then we are in for a long year. But I know he can...and will.

So please cut the **** about the wide recievers. They havent been most of the problems. The defense to me is a bigger problem then our recievers. Our recievers are giving it all they have. You cant pin Brady's problems on them. Yes, he is not used to them but does that mean they are bad WR's? All the WR's have potential, some with great potential. All the, Its not Brady's fault with the WIDE RECIEVERS he has. No its his fault currently that he either cant get used to them or he isnt motivating his offense or acting like a leader. That could be a case, because he never seems emotional besides yelling and throwing tantrums at the referees.

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So you are making the assumption that this is HIS fault?

I'm not sure what games you've been watching then, if that's the case.

Anyone that can throw for over 3 hundred yards and not throw a pick against that D with THOSE WRs and no running game did not have a bad day.

It's the guys around him that were struggling, the OL included.

He had no time to throw, no one to throw to, and no running game. But still threw for 300 yards, a TD, and no picks. Get real!
Actually, I do find fault in Brady's games so far. He most certainly has been off on some plays; Vs. Jets - a handful to Brown and the underthrow that should have been a TD to Watson. The pass to Gabriel was way underthrown. Vs. Denver - Underthrew a pass to Caldwell that would have been a long TD, overthrew the pass to Brown slightly (although Brown still should have caught it). Those are just the ones off the top of my head.

A case can be made that it is lack of comfort that is driving this, and I believe that firmly. However, Brady is definitely not above reproach for his play so far.

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Actually, I do find fault in Brady's games so far. He most certainly has been off on some plays; Vs. Jets - a handful to Brown and the underthrow that should have been a TD to Watson. The pass to Gabriel was way underthrown. Vs. Denver - Underthrew a pass to Caldwell that would have been a long TD, overthrew the pass to Brown slightly (although Brown still should have caught it). Those are just the ones off the top of my head.

Can a case be made it is lack of comfort that is driving this, and I believe that firmly. However, Brady is definitely not above reproach for his play so far.
I agree. Good post.
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The criticisms of the recievers are crazy. You have some new guys who arent well known and havent been labeled as good players, and they're working their asses off to do well. And they are improving. I can see it from Caldwell and Gabriel showed his stuff on that second to last drive of the Pats Sunday. Jackson made a few great catches against the Jets. I'm not trying to say that they are doing everything perfect and it is all Brady's fault. Brady needs to learn his new recievers. If Brady cant do that then we are in for a long year. But I know he can...and will.
Yes they are trying hard, but as we've seen through the years, when a read is made the wrong way, it's almost always on the WR.

Brady doesn't need to adjust to his WRs if they are reading plays the wrong way. How would he be a good QB if he gave in and started doing things the wrong way too?

The WRs we have are trying hard, but that doesn't mean that they're getting it RIGHT, or even close to right. Brady knows the way the offense will work. They have to do it his way, he's the future HOF pro-bowler. They are the low salaried who'deys. I'm sure Brady will adjust to them as in getting to know the way they run their routes and their speed differentials and their habits, etc.

But Brady will never change the way he reads and reacts in this offense, as it's predicated on BRADY's ability to read the defense. His WRs have to get to the point that they see the same thing HE sees, not the other way around.

You can be assured of this by the times you've seen Brady preaching to TROY BROWN about how a route should have been run. Troy is our best WR and an experienced NFL vet, but even he's taking direction from Tom Brady.
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