AndyJohnson

So your theory is that given an opportunity to hurt the competition, Mangini recognizes the opportunity (I did, so he must have) and says to himself, shlt I'm not even ready to a HC and I sudder in fear of Bill Belichick, so I am going to abandon my responsibility to the Jets because I might get the guy I am trying to beat mad at me?
I find that more impossible to believe that only one other thing, that the Jets actually want Deion Branch for 6mill a year and would give up draft picks to get him.

Bostonian1962

Recently big Eric was talking about how close he and BB still are. I can't see taking the side of a rookie agent over a close friend. Makes little sense to me.

What about if Eric M. did it as a favor to BB? Think about it.... Offer is about the same that the Pats offered. Hmmm.

smg93

If it seemed like I was saying that Mangini would tell Chayut to get lost, I will tell you now that that isn't the case at all. What I'm saying is why would it be Chayut? If Mangini would want to make friends with an agent it would be someone like the Postons or Condon who have a whole slew of marquee players that I would like to sign and who in all likelihood will sign the most promising players in next years draft.

That's all. I brought up the point of who in Chayut's stable of clients would the Jets really want? I should have expounded by saying in the history of Jason Chayut, how successful has he been with signing the big name draftees in the last few drafts?

If I were going to burn a bridge with my mentor, I would make sure it was for a damn good reason. In my book, Chayut is not a damn good reason.

Why is it so difficult for you to accept that? And why are you defending Florio's rumor so vehemently? Can't someone just have a differing opinion on the subject?

PatsWickedPissah

There is more evidence for your hypothetical than the space aliens helping Mangini (suddenly promoted to GM!) work Machieavellian magic with Chayut against the Pats org them of the thread.

MoLewisrocks

Exactly. Tannenbaum is the GM, and Bradway remains the consultant. Mangini may get asked can you use this guy if we get him - but beyond that he's the HC in NY not the GM. Tannenbaum may well be socially chummy with Chayut who is also NY based and probably moves in the same circles. The quid pro quo can be the player Chayut doesn't work as hard for or the FA he steers to the Jets next season.

Happens all the time. AV's former agent works for the firm that represents BB. He still represents several players on this team including Neal who couldn't seem to get a decent offer from any west coast team in FA. Just like the interest in AV seemed non-existent.

It is what it is, BB knows how the game is played and payback can be a ***** when you have a shot to screw the guy who screwed you and help your team down the road.

dryheat44

Thank you.

The other thing that someone's going to have to help me out with is that the Patriots have to do NOTHING. Branch is under contract. Chayut could use the Jets to drive up Branch's price tag, but to what end? According to PFT, to put pressure on the Patriots to move him. There is zero pressure on the Patriots to move him. Branch has a team-friendly contract, counts very little against the cap, and the Pats could easily maintain the status quo and acquire another WR to play this season.

Bottom line is that regardless of Chayut/Jets actions, a team has to give the Patriots what Belichick wants if they want to acquire Branch.

It makes no sense to me. If Branch had a prohibitive Price Tag, or the Patriots desparately needed cap room, I could see it. If the Patriots already used the franchise tag on another player, I could see it somewhat.

At the end of the day, Chayut STILL has no leverage. As I, and others, have said elsewhere, Mangini can offer Branch a 10 year, 100 billion dollar contract, all guaranteed, and offer the Patriots a conditional draft pick in the 2194 draft. That doesn't mean Branch's market value has increased. If Branch thinks that it does, than he's too dumb to be on this team anyway.

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Kdo5

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Patriotic Fervor

Although it was widely reported in the press that the Pats had the hots for him, it appears there was no offer made, and indeed, the team in reality had no interest in him.

That's what I've read about it....

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bakes781

Obviously the Pats hold all the cards, but if you're given a full house(say 2nd round pick) why hold out for a straight(high 1st) when you know that's unrealistic?

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dryheat44

If you're going to use poker analogies, please know which hand beats which.

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