The Linebacker position in the patriots scheme - New England Patriots Forums - PatsFans.com Patriots Fan Messageboard
NEWS
|
FORUM
|
PHOTOS
|
VIDEOS
|
FULL STATS DATABASE
|
PODCAST
|
RUMOR MILL
Get Social With PatsFans.com
Early Roster Projection
Ryan's Journey Started Early
POST DRAFT PODCAST

Go Back   New England Patriots Forums - PatsFans.com Patriots Fan Messageboard > PatsFans.com Forums > PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum
Forgot Password? Join PatsFans.com!
Register Blogs FAQ Members List Calendar Arcade Mark Forums Read Chat Room

WELCOME TO OUR FORUM HERE AT PATSFANS.COM!
ARE YOU NEW HERE? NOT LOGGED IN? PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO REGISTER FOR AN ACCOUNT AND LOGIN TO REMOVE THIS WINDOW

Welcome to PatsFans.com. Do you have an account? If not - please take a moment to register for our forum and experience a much smoother experience with fewer ads, along with no longer having to see this notification window. Also learn about how you can receive a free Patriots T-Shirt from the Patriots Official ProShop by CLICKING HERE. Please enjoy your stay here, and Go Pats!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-29-2006, 08:12 PM   #1
Third String But Playing on Special Teams
 

Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 679
Default The Linebacker position in the patriots scheme

It seems that we just cant get any younger here. Obviously its due to the extreme complexity of the system, I just find it very frustrating, I can only imagine how the coaching staff must feel.

Drafting LB's seems like a crap shoot for us, its almost as if its better if a player spends 3 or 4 years on another team to get the basics of the game under their belt and then comes to the pats. As we all know that’s not the way it works around here, or anywhere for that matter. The only real example of the pats developing any sort of a success story is TBC, and even he has yet to show anything of any importance when it really matters (not preseason) I may be mistaken but im pretty sure he spent 3 years on the pine learning/growing/developing and only now is coming on.

Is it fair to say that to draft a LB high is almost a waste?

Thoughts?
DB15 is offline   Reply With Quote
FEATURED ADVERTISEMENT
DONATE TO PATSFANS.COM
RECEIVE A FREE PATS T-SHIRT AND SAVE 15% OFF WHEN YOU BUY FROM THE OFFICIAL PROSHOP!

Free T-Shirt & Save 15% Off!
Like Our Site? Please help support our site and server costs by DONATING TO PATSFANS.COM and receive a FREE PATRIOTS T-SHIRT and SAVE 15% off EVERY purchase you make from PatriotsProShop.com. You'll also receive added benefits to your account
including Removing All Ads During Your Experience Here At Our Forum.

NEEDED YEARLY SITE DONATIONS: 345 | CURRENT # OF SUBSCRIBED SUPPORTERS: 98

Updated 07/08/11

Help Us Reach Our Goal!

Old 08-29-2006, 08:15 PM   #2
Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract
 
zippo59's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Who wants to know?
Posts: 5,072
Default Re: The Linebacker position in the patriots scheme

At the same time you can say the Pats have yet to put the time and investment in to develop young LB's.
__________________
"What Tom Brady just did gives me goose bumps."-John Madden after final drive in SB 36


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


Unofficial Kevin Faulk supporter.
zippo59 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2006, 08:16 PM   #3
Third String But Playing on Special Teams
 

Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 679
Default Re: The Linebacker position in the patriots scheme

but is there a reason for that?
DB15 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2006, 08:20 PM   #4
Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract
 
zippo59's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Who wants to know?
Posts: 5,072
Default Re: The Linebacker position in the patriots scheme

Cuz it's a big investment. Maybe they don't want to put the present on hold for a future payoff. They want success now, not to wait on a player to come around in a few years. I have no idea if this is true but it's a guess.
__________________
"What Tom Brady just did gives me goose bumps."-John Madden after final drive in SB 36


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


Unofficial Kevin Faulk supporter.
zippo59 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2006, 09:02 PM   #5
In the Starting Line-up
 
patsfan55's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Boston via Longmeadow
Posts: 2,669
My Mood: Daring
Send a message via AIM to patsfan55
Default Re: The Linebacker position in the patriots scheme

Quote:
Originally Posted by zippo59
Cuz it's a big investment. Maybe they don't want to put the present on hold for a future payoff. They want success now, not to wait on a player to come around in a few years. I have no idea if this is true but it's a guess.
weve done it with dline: sey, warren, wilfork, hill, green
weve done it with oline: light, kaczur, koppen, ocallaghan, mankins, neal
weve done it with wrs: branch, givens, bethel
weve done it with qbs: brady, cassell
weve done it with dbs: assante, geno, hobbs, sanders, g scott
weve done it with rbs: maroney

so now we must do it with lbs
all these guys were early to mid round draft picks
we must draft some stud lbs to groom
our lbs are gettin way too old and we must do it soon
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


“My favorite ring? I've always said, you know, I always said the next one. The next one is the best,” Brady says.
patsfan55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2006, 09:06 PM   #6
Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract
 
zippo59's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Who wants to know?
Posts: 5,072
Default Re: The Linebacker position in the patriots scheme

Quote:
Originally Posted by patsfan55
weve done it with dline: sey, warren, wilfork, hill, green
weve done it with oline: light, kaczur, koppen, ocallaghan, mankins, neal
weve done it with wrs: branch, givens, bethel
weve done it with qbs: brady, cassell
weve done it with dbs: assante, geno, hobbs, sanders, g scott
weve done it with rbs: maroney

so now we must do it with lbs
all these guys were early to mid round draft picks
we must draft some stud lbs to groom
our lbs are gettin way too old and we must do it soon
I think LB is the heardest player to groom on the defense, and possibly on the whole team, in this situation and scheme. There just seems to be something different about developing LB's than other positions on this team.
__________________
"What Tom Brady just did gives me goose bumps."-John Madden after final drive in SB 36


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


Unofficial Kevin Faulk supporter.
zippo59 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2006, 09:26 PM   #7
Moderator
 

Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 22,034
My Mood: Fine
Default Re: The Linebacker position in the patriots scheme

This year may be the one where we do get younger at LB. TBC looks like he is ready to strp up, Alexander has made progress and will be on the roster IMO, is a year behind TBC. I will not be suprised if Wood and Mincey stick and play ST and become developmental LB's. That would be 4 relatively young LB's with an upside.
__________________
"Some guys play in all-star games, some guys don't. I don't know who picks all those all-star teams. In all honesty, I don't know who picks the combine, for that matter," Belichick said. "How does (Miami-Ohio offensive lineman Brandon) Brooks not get invited to the combine? How did Vollmer not get invited to the combine? I don't know. We can't really worry about that. We just have to try to evaluate them the best we can."
patsfan13 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2006, 09:48 PM   #8
PatsFans.com Supporter
 
363839's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Illinois
Posts: 3,424
Default Re: The Linebacker position in the patriots scheme

Quote:
Originally Posted by DB15
It seems that we just cant get any younger here. Obviously its due to the extreme complexity of the system, I just find it very frustrating, I can only imagine how the coaching staff must feel.

Drafting LB's seems like a crap shoot for us, its almost as if its better if a player spends 3 or 4 years on another team to get the basics of the game under their belt and then comes to the pats. As we all know that’s not the way it works around here, or anywhere for that matter. The only real example of the pats developing any sort of a success story is TBC, and even he has yet to show anything of any importance when it really matters (not preseason) I may be mistaken but im pretty sure he spent 3 years on the pine learning/growing/developing and only now is coming on.

Is it fair to say that to draft a LB high is almost a waste?

Thoughts?
Let's see how AJ Hawk does with the Packers
363839 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2006, 09:50 PM   #9
PatsFans.com Supporter
 
363839's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Illinois
Posts: 3,424
Default Re: The Linebacker position in the patriots scheme

Quote:
Originally Posted by patsfan55
weve done it with dline: sey, warren, wilfork, hill, green
weve done it with oline: light, kaczur, koppen, ocallaghan, mankins, neal
weve done it with wrs: branch, givens, bethel
weve done it with qbs: brady, cassell
weve done it with dbs: assante, geno, hobbs, sanders, g scott
weve done it with rbs: maroney

so now we must do it with lbs
all these guys were early to mid round draft picks
we must draft some stud lbs to groom
our lbs are gettin way too old and we must do it soon
First off, Brady was a 6th rounder. only the seventh round is left.
O'Callahan and Cassell were mid to late round picks and they haven't proven anything in reg season, yet. Not that they won't.
363839 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2006, 09:51 PM   #10
PatsFans.com Supporter
 
363839's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Illinois
Posts: 3,424
Default Re: The Linebacker position in the patriots scheme

Oh. I believe Neal was undrafted.
And Bethel is not a success.
363839 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Sponsored Links



Thread Tools
Display Modes


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:20 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2

© Copyright 2000-2012. PatsFans.com Is a Partner of USA TODAY Sports Digital Properties.
The opinions posted in this forum do not necessarily reflect the opinions of our staff at PatsFans.com or USA Today.
We are not affiliated with the New England Patriots™ or the NFL™. The Photo Used In the header was taken by Ian Logue.

This site is owned and operated by I&K Internet Design Enterprises, LLC