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It seems that we just cant get any younger here. Obviously its due to the extreme complexity of the system, I just find it very frustrating, I can only imagine how the coaching staff must feel.
Drafting LB's seems like a crap shoot for us, its almost as if its better if a player spends 3 or 4 years on another team to get the basics of the game under their belt and then comes to the pats. As we all know that’s not the way it works around here, or anywhere for that matter. The only real example of the pats developing any sort of a success story is TBC, and even he has yet to show anything of any importance when it really matters (not preseason) I may be mistaken but im pretty sure he spent 3 years on the pine learning/growing/developing and only now is coming on.
Is it fair to say that to draft a LB high is almost a waste?
Thoughts?
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Re: The Linebacker position in the patriots scheme
Cuz it's a big investment. Maybe they don't want to put the present on hold for a future payoff. They want success now, not to wait on a player to come around in a few years. I have no idea if this is true but it's a guess.
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Re: The Linebacker position in the patriots scheme
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Originally Posted by zippo59
Cuz it's a big investment. Maybe they don't want to put the present on hold for a future payoff. They want success now, not to wait on a player to come around in a few years. I have no idea if this is true but it's a guess.
weve done it with dline: sey, warren, wilfork, hill, green
weve done it with oline: light, kaczur, koppen, ocallaghan, mankins, neal
weve done it with wrs: branch, givens, bethel
weve done it with qbs: brady, cassell
weve done it with dbs: assante, geno, hobbs, sanders, g scott
weve done it with rbs: maroney
so now we must do it with lbs
all these guys were early to mid round draft picks
we must draft some stud lbs to groom
our lbs are gettin way too old and we must do it soon
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Re: The Linebacker position in the patriots scheme
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Originally Posted by patsfan55
weve done it with dline: sey, warren, wilfork, hill, green
weve done it with oline: light, kaczur, koppen, ocallaghan, mankins, neal
weve done it with wrs: branch, givens, bethel
weve done it with qbs: brady, cassell
weve done it with dbs: assante, geno, hobbs, sanders, g scott
weve done it with rbs: maroney
so now we must do it with lbs
all these guys were early to mid round draft picks
we must draft some stud lbs to groom
our lbs are gettin way too old and we must do it soon
I think LB is the heardest player to groom on the defense, and possibly on the whole team, in this situation and scheme. There just seems to be something different about developing LB's than other positions on this team.
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Re: The Linebacker position in the patriots scheme
This year may be the one where we do get younger at LB. TBC looks like he is ready to strp up, Alexander has made progress and will be on the roster IMO, is a year behind TBC. I will not be suprised if Wood and Mincey stick and play ST and become developmental LB's. That would be 4 relatively young LB's with an upside.
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Re: The Linebacker position in the patriots scheme
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Originally Posted by DB15
It seems that we just cant get any younger here. Obviously its due to the extreme complexity of the system, I just find it very frustrating, I can only imagine how the coaching staff must feel.
Drafting LB's seems like a crap shoot for us, its almost as if its better if a player spends 3 or 4 years on another team to get the basics of the game under their belt and then comes to the pats. As we all know that’s not the way it works around here, or anywhere for that matter. The only real example of the pats developing any sort of a success story is TBC, and even he has yet to show anything of any importance when it really matters (not preseason) I may be mistaken but im pretty sure he spent 3 years on the pine learning/growing/developing and only now is coming on.
Is it fair to say that to draft a LB high is almost a waste?
Re: The Linebacker position in the patriots scheme
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Originally Posted by patsfan55
weve done it with dline: sey, warren, wilfork, hill, green
weve done it with oline: light, kaczur, koppen, ocallaghan, mankins, neal
weve done it with wrs: branch, givens, bethel
weve done it with qbs: brady, cassell
weve done it with dbs: assante, geno, hobbs, sanders, g scott
weve done it with rbs: maroney
so now we must do it with lbs
all these guys were early to mid round draft picks
we must draft some stud lbs to groom
our lbs are gettin way too old and we must do it soon
First off, Brady was a 6th rounder. only the seventh round is left.
O'Callahan and Cassell were mid to late round picks and they haven't proven anything in reg season, yet. Not that they won't.