Question about IR and Players salaries - New England Patriots Forums - PatsFans.com Patriots Fan Messageboard
NEWS
|
FORUM
|
PHOTOS
|
VIDEOS
|
FULL STATS DATABASE
|
PODCAST
|
RUMOR MILL
Get Social With PatsFans.com
Early Roster Projection
Ryan's Journey Started Early
POST DRAFT PODCAST

Go Back   New England Patriots Forums - PatsFans.com Patriots Fan Messageboard > PatsFans.com Forums > PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum
Forgot Password? Join PatsFans.com!
Register Blogs FAQ Members List Calendar Arcade Mark Forums Read Chat Room

WELCOME TO OUR FORUM HERE AT PATSFANS.COM!
ARE YOU NEW HERE? NOT LOGGED IN? PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO REGISTER FOR AN ACCOUNT AND LOGIN TO REMOVE THIS WINDOW

Welcome to PatsFans.com. Do you have an account? If not - please take a moment to register for our forum and experience a much smoother experience with fewer ads, along with no longer having to see this notification window. Also learn about how you can receive a free Patriots T-Shirt from the Patriots Official ProShop by CLICKING HERE. Please enjoy your stay here, and Go Pats!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-23-2006, 10:04 AM   #1
On The Game Day Roster
 

Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 353
Default Question about IR and Players salaries

Can anyone tell me if a player is put on IR does he get his full salary or does he get an injury settlement which is something less than the full salary.

Reason I ask is a debate has arisen concerning Bruschi and how the Pats paid him his full salary when he went on IR after the stroke. I didn't think they had to pay him his full salary but did anyway.

any help would be appreciated.
ctpatsfan1 is offline   Reply With Quote
FEATURED ADVERTISEMENT
DONATE TO PATSFANS.COM
RECEIVE A FREE PATS T-SHIRT AND SAVE 15% OFF WHEN YOU BUY FROM THE OFFICIAL PROSHOP!

Free T-Shirt & Save 15% Off!
Like Our Site? Please help support our site and server costs by DONATING TO PATSFANS.COM and receive a FREE PATRIOTS T-SHIRT and SAVE 15% off EVERY purchase you make from PatriotsProShop.com. You'll also receive added benefits to your account
including Removing All Ads During Your Experience Here At Our Forum.

NEEDED YEARLY SITE DONATIONS: 345 | CURRENT # OF SUBSCRIBED SUPPORTERS: 98

Updated 07/08/11

Help Us Reach Our Goal!

Old 08-23-2006, 10:07 AM   #2
Third String But Playing on Special Teams
 

Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Kensington, CT
Posts: 825
Default Re: Question about IR and Players salaries

Bruschi never went on the IR after his stroke, he was on the PUP list.
tatepatsfan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2006, 10:15 AM   #3
PatsFans.com Supporter
 
FreeTedWilliams's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: free from the cold
Posts: 5,031
My Mood: Grumpy
Default Re: Question about IR and Players salaries

If a player is on the "Injuried Reserved" list, he gets his full salary. If a player is injured and the team wishes to cut him, then they reach an "Injury settlement". I believe that you can not cut anyone while they are on the IR, so that is where the "injury settlement" thing comes along. It is used to protect the players from getting cut just for being injuried.

The Bruschi situation was different. The Patriots could have placed Bruschi on the "non-football related injury list" and not paid him his full salary. Of course, they would have been a huge public outcry if they did that. I'm not sure what happens to the "rights" to the player if you put him on the NFRIL.
__________________
The Jets look like a Super Bowl contender right now about as much as Rosie O’Donnell looks like a threat for the Miss America crown. -NY Post 12/19/2011


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
FreeTedWilliams is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2006, 10:25 AM   #4
Second Team and Threatening Starter's Job
 

Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,056
Default Re: Question about IR and Players salaries

Unless the player has a split contract, he gets his full salary.

Late round picks and undrafted FA usually get split salaries in their first season or two. The split pays them about half the rate of their salary for the season if they end up on IR. They get their full salary if they are on the active roster. This effects only salary, and not other types of compensation like signing and roster bonus.

Veterans don't usually get split contracts, unless they don't have much bargaining power and are forced to take them. Usually that is only with players who don't have much value and are getting a shot or players with an injury history.

Must veterans don't have split contracts, so they get their full salary if placed on IR.
NE39 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2006, 11:04 AM   #5
PatsFans.com Veteran
 

Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 17,117
Default Re: Question about IR and Players salaries

Players often have a split contract that reduces the salary for IR; also, the player won't earn incentives.
mgteich is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2006, 01:08 PM   #6
Rookie
 

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: San Diego
Posts: 48
Default Re: Question about IR and Players salaries

There is a difference between football and non-football related injuries. The stroke was classified as non-football related I believe.

This is from ASK Vic on the Jaguars website.

"The non-football injury list is for players who've sustained non-football-related injuries, which means their teams are not required to pay their salaries. A player who has sustained a non-football-related injury can not be placed on the injured reserve list."

He then goes on to say that the two lists [IR and Non-football related Injury] are distinct and determined by when and how the injury was sustained.

While on IR a team is reposnible for the salary but this is not the case for players on the non-football injury list; the team does not have to pay the salary in the latter case but often still chooses to.
SBPatsFan is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2006, 01:10 PM   #7
Second Team and Threatening Starter's Job
 

Join Date: May 2005
Location: Minuteman country
Posts: 1,094
Send a message via AIM to arrellbee
Default Re: Question about IR and Players salaries

Quote:
Originally Posted by mgteich
Players often have a split contract that reduces the salary for IR; also, the player won't earn incentives.
Tiny tweak - if they go on IR late, they may have already earned certain incentives ??
arrellbee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2006, 05:36 PM   #8
Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract
 

Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 5,106
Default Re: Question about IR and Players salaries

This brings up a pet peeve. Players when placed on the IR are lost for the "balance of the season". If the player is on a poor team, he returns the following spring traing camp.

If his team is good, and gets to the playoffs and the "second season", he still can't play even if he has returned to health, and has been out for the "balance of the [regular] season".

I know that the league does not want teams stockpiling talent by putting players on 15 day DL or 30 day DLs. But the penalty should be the same for both good and bad teams. In this case good teams are penalized and lose an injured player for more games than a poor team does.

Besides its unfair for a player to get injured, if and his team goes to the Superbowl for the only time in his career, he can't participate, even if he has returned to health.

Last edited by AzPatsFan; 08-23-2006 at 05:37 PM..
AzPatsFan is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Sponsored Links



Thread Tools
Display Modes


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:04 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2

© Copyright 2000-2012. PatsFans.com Is a Partner of USA TODAY Sports Digital Properties.
The opinions posted in this forum do not necessarily reflect the opinions of our staff at PatsFans.com or USA Today.
We are not affiliated with the New England Patriots™ or the NFL™. The Photo Used In the header was taken by Ian Logue.

This site is owned and operated by I&K Internet Design Enterprises, LLC