RUMOR: Gorin Traded to Arizona???? - Page 5 - New England Patriots Forums

Jacky Roberts · 08-21-2006, 06:28 PM

I assume that means the Pats have even more salary cap space now?

***Box_O_Rocks*** · 08-21-2006, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jacky Roberts

I assume that means the Pats have even more salary cap space now?

Not much, Brandon's extension was on the cheap, it was variable based on starting time, but not expensive by any means.

***BelichickFan*** · 08-21-2006, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Box_O_Rocks

Not much, Brandon's extension was on the cheap, it was variable based on starting time, but not expensive by any means.

Yeah, we gain about $450K if I'm reading Miguel's page right (add lose $133K next year).

GraftonPatsFan · 08-21-2006, 07:15 PM

To put this into the proper context, What did the pats get from the Browns for Tucker in the way of compensation?

***BelichickFan*** · 08-21-2006, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GraftonPatsFan

To put this into the proper context, What did the pats get from the Browns for Tucker in the way of compensation?

That was said to be a conditional 7th (7th or nothing).

***DaBruinz*** · 08-21-2006, 07:40 PM

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Yeah, we gain about $450K if I'm reading Miguel's page right (add lose $133K next year).

You are reading it wrong. When a player is traded, any remaining signing bonus amortization is immediately accelerated into the current year. There is no carrying it over to the next year.

The Patriots gain about 68K on the cap with moving Mills up onto the top 51.

***DaBruinz*** · 08-21-2006, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BelichickFan

That was said to be a conditional 7th (7th or nothing).

I believe that you are incorrect on this. I believe it was done the same way. A 7th that could be upgraded depending on whether Tucker became the starter.

***BelichickFan*** · 08-21-2006, 07:45 PM

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You are reading it wrong. When a player is traded, any remaining signing bonus amortization is immediately accelerated into the current year. There is no carrying it over to the next year.

Oh, I thought trades and cuts had the same salary cap implications so I was going by the columns for after 6/1/06. Obviously I could be wrong though.

***pats1*** · 08-21-2006, 07:55 PM

Belichick fan is correct.

Remember the Bethel/Sullivan trade?

http://www.profootballtalk.com/6-1-06through6-15-06.htm

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POSTED 10:39 a.m. EDT; LAST UPDATED 1:10 p.m. EDT, June 7, 2006

NEW POST-JUNE 1 RULE CONFIRMED

On Tuesday, we cited a league source for the proposition that the recent trade of 2003 first-day draft busts between the Saints and Pats would not trigger the acceleration of any bonus amounts that otherwise would have been allocated to future league years. The former rule requiring full acceleration of all unallocated bonus money, per the source, has been revised to permit trades occurring after June 1 to be treated in the same manner as contract terminations occurring after June 1.

NFL spokesman Greg Aiello has confirmed that the rule has changed. "The new rule is in effect," Aiello wrote in a Wednesday morning e-mail. "If the trade occurs after June 1, the assigning club's signing bonus acceleration (if any) is postponed until the first day of the 2007 league year. The club would continue to bear the cap charge for the current year's prorated signing bonus (this is not considered acceleration) plus any amounts that have already been earned under the 2006 contract."

For example, if a player signed in 2005 a four-year deal with a $4 million signing bonus, a trade of that player after June 1, 2006 would result in a $1 million cap charge for 2006 and a $2 million cap charge in 2007. Under the old rule, a trade occurring at any time in 2006 would have resulted in a $3 million cap hit in 2006.

Just how obscure is this new rule? The guys who get paid by the NFL to write about the sport don't even know about it.

In an item posted by Pat Kirwan of NFL.com on June 6 regarding the Pats-Saints trade, Kirwan states that "[t]rades are considered the same as a termination before June 1, so the Patriots must absorb the remaining bonus now."

Should the guys who get paid by the NFL to write about the sport know about this tweak to the rules? That's a call that the folks who sign the checks need to make.

SoonerPatriot · 08-21-2006, 08:37 PM

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We're more than 2 up on draft picks. The Pats will be getting 4 comp picks for next year as well.

By my counts, that gives the Pats 13 draft picks for next year.

I would love the Pats to trade Branch to someone like the Eagles, Seahawks, Lions or Bears. In fact, If the Pats traded Branch for Muhammed, I'd be very happy.

Heck, maybe the Pats can trade Branch for Santana Moss. I think that Moss would be great to have on the Pats.....

Awesome point. I had pipe dreams of getting Muhammed when he went to Chicago. He would fit in very well.