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Old 08-19-2006, 06:55 AM   #1
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Default Seau's impact extends beyond his play ....

... it also significantly raises the Team Chemistry quotient ... IMO.

Consider his statement again:

What are your thoughts about playing with Rodney Harrison again?

“It was definitely a homecoming when I saw Rodney. There were hugs and joyful cheers when we met. We have a lot of respect for each other. Throughout the years it grew to both of us loving each other as people and players. We’ve definitely seen each other grow up


The Seau effect:

... another significant Vet team leader
... Harrison psyched to be reunited
... Seau will be psyched not to let his old budy Rodney down.
... Bruschi psyched to play next to the all time PRO
... Vrabel and Colvin will be psyched to be part of a special LB group
... All D players will feel the effect of the above and respond

Belichick has found ways in the past to raise the Chemistry quotient of
the team.
The loss of Willie was a downer ... but this has the potential to be
a catalyst to get this team over the hump in terms of team chemistry.

Anyone following this team knows how important team chemistry has
been to the Championships that have been won.

Could it be? ..... It's baaaack!
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Old 08-19-2006, 06:59 AM   #2
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Wow, that was a pretty quick turn around, JR4.
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Old 08-19-2006, 07:06 AM   #3
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Wow, that was a pretty quick turn around, JR4.
... turn around from what .....?
... from noting there was a weakness at ILB ... there was ...
... from noting there was a weakness at WR ... there was and there is
and there is no Jackson at present on the field yet which was the
main theme of that other thread.
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I totally agree...having a hungry vet will help the chemistry on D..and with Rodney..they will step it up a few notches. I think very important and vital..and if he can play SOME..only SOME..it will have a large impact! I don't think he or BB are looking at a LOT of downs..in fact if he can play some key 1st, 2nd down plays..stopping the run..THAT will be BIG!! I think he may have been injured more due to his wishing to play full out and more of the time..and the team wanting that as well..We shall soon see. As much as I do not like Seau, I have to hope that this will work and between leadership qualities, experience and play, it will make the D even better.
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Yep. At worst this is the next Bryan Cox - hopefully without the broken leg.
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I don't know, I'm very leery about this. The guy is 37 years old and has a history of injuries these past, what 4 or 5 years? You can't lead from the trainer's room.

If he's out there for only a limited number of plays, he's not really leading his team either. TJ did that and I didn't consider him to be one of the leaders of the team. IMO, a leader has to be out there on every down, making plays, being vocal. A "constant" on the feild. Not "limited".

And which young player does he knock off the team? Mincey? Woods? Roach? Alexander?

I know everyone wants it to be Beisel, but what if it's not? These young kids have potential and now one of them is gone so we can bring in a player that has to be treated with kid gloves, so that he can lead the team from the sidelines??

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... turn around from what .....?
... from noting there was a weakness at ILB ... there was ...
... from noting there was a weakness at WR ... there was and there is
and there is no Jackson at present on the field yet which was the
main theme of that other thread.
Turn around from what?

As it has been said in many other threads - Junior Seau doesn't automatically complete the Patriots and bring them from pretenders to contenders - or in your case, turn your overwhelming negative outlook to an overwhelming positive outlook. They were already contenders, and the Seau move just shifts the scale even more.

You should have already been "turned around" quite awhile ago. In fact, I don't know what ever turned your outlook to negative in the first place.

The equation isn't "Struggling against the division early" + "Junior Seau" = "Championship contenders."

It is "Championship contenders" + "Junior Seau" = "Deeper championship contenders."
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Yep. At worst this is the next Bryan Cox - hopefully without the broken leg.
That is exactly how I am looking at it.
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Old 08-19-2006, 12:32 PM   #9
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Turn around from what?

As it has been said in many other threads - Junior Seau doesn't automatically complete the Patriots and bring them from pretenders to contenders - or in your case, turn your overwhelming negative outlook to an overwhelming positive outlook. They were already contenders, and the Seau move just shifts the scale even more.

You should have already been "turned around" quite awhile ago. In fact, I don't know what ever turned your outlook to negative in the first place.

The equation isn't "Struggling against the division early" + "Junior Seau" = "Championship contenders."

It is "Championship contenders" + "Junior Seau" = "Deeper championship contenders."

Sorry, I can not follow you logic at all. It seems you are either
on or off and there is nothing in between.

I have never never never had an overall negative outlook to the PATs
this season.
I pointed out problems areas, which there are, but that in no way means
I have ever thought the PATs wouldn't have a very good season. If they
were perfect in all areas then I guess I might say 16-0.

You infer that I thought they were pretenders and to that I call you out.

Show me where in any of my satements I even suggested THAT!
Come on don't whimp out ... go find it ... if you can ..or simply apologize for
your unspported inference.

As other posters have pointed out pat1,
" .....you tend to take anything that isn't overwhelmingly positive as something that is overwhelmingly negative."

Seau, IMO, helps one area of my concerns the ILB, IF Bruschi returns
without problems and IF Beisel can contribute or one of the youg guys
steps up. Seau can't be in there every down so there has to be other
guys at ILB that rotate without a big problem.

There is still the WR concern and even if Jackson comes back next week
he still has a lot of catching up. Branch would help a lot but some say
not until week 10. So where does that leave us. One injury away from
a serious concern? I am am still concerned about the WR unit.

So does that mean I think the PATs will go 4-12 .....Noooooo.

Sorry if you can't take a little reality with your KoolAid.
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Sorry, I can not follow you logic at all. It seems you are either
on or off and there is nothing in between.

I have never never never had an overall negative outlook to the PATs
this season.
I pointed out problems areas, which there are, but that in no way means
I have ever thought the PATs wouldn't have a very good season. If they
were perfect in all areas then I guess I might say 16-0.

You infer that I thought they were pretenders and to that I call you out.

Show me where in any of my satements I even suggested THAT!
Come on don't whimp out ... go find it ... if you can ..or simply apologize for
your unspported inference.

As other posters have pointed out pat1,
" .....you tend to take anything that isn't overwhelmingly positive as something that is overwhelmingly negative."

Seau, IMO, helps one area of my concerns the ILB, IF Bruschi returns
without problems and IF Beisel can contribute or one of the youg guys
steps up. Seau can't be in there every down so there has to be other
guys at ILB that rotate without a big problem.

There is still the WR concern and even if Jackson comes back next week
he still has a lot of catching up. Branch would help a lot but some say
not until week 10. So where does that leave us. One injury away from
a serious concern? I am am still concerned about the WR unit.

So does that mean I think the PATs will go 4-12 .....Noooooo.

Sorry if you can't take a little reality with your KoolAid.
This is what you said when mind you, MEL MITCHELL went down with an injury:

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Maybe success has gone to their heads and they are just down right arrogant thinking they can win with scrubs for backups.
Now, please tell me what has changed since then to suggest your latest statement: (not that's it's false)

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Belichick has found ways in the past to raise the Chemistry quotient of the team.

Anyone following this team knows how important team chemistry has
been to the Championships that have been won.
It's like the Red Sox mentality. One night they're great and Theo is God, the next they're horrible and Theo's lost his touch - or never even had it.

But in reality, things have never changed. The same goes with Belichick. Each move made by Beioli shouldn't raise/lower your sentiments. They are only affirmations of their successes.

Another example of your sudden turnaround:

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If you did that you then have an older player who was scheduled for rotation
to assume a much more demanding role. He may hold up or his age may
become a factor. TBC as of late has been having problems. But also consider
that without Beisel in there how effective will Vrable be if he takes all inside
snaps next to Gardner. How will they work together? Just the other week
Bruschi talked about the time he and Beisel have been able to work togehter
and how they are developing together.
And now today, everything is suddenly all back to normal since Seau was signed. In reality, it has always been fine.

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The Seau effect:

... another significant Vet team leader
... Harrison psyched to be reunited
... Seau will be psyched not to let his old budy Rodney down.
... Bruschi psyched to play next to the all time PRO
... Vrabel and Colvin will be psyched to be part of a special LB group
... All D players will feel the effect of the above and respond
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