Willie55

I had forgotten about this play until I saw the picture. The end result was Cassel being pulled down from behind by his shirt/shoulder pads. IIRC even if they get pulled down from behind by their shirt, not just the shoulder pads, it was going to get called. After the play, I went ballistic because Cassel was horse-collared and it wasn't called. So much for improved officiating.

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edgecy

I thought it didn't apply to QBs scrambling out of the pocket. I could be wrong though.

arrellbee

It's supposed to be called in any situation. That ref crew will hear about that one in their feedback report.

edgecy

I stand corrected.

Willie55

In the picture you can see the ref on the edge of it looking right at the play.

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jaychamp

Has a horse collar tackle ever caused an injury? Just curious why they made the rule.

spacecrime

It's only in certain situations, unless they changed that also. It never applied to running backs between the tackles, for instance. They could be hauled down by pads legally. Not sure about scambing QBs, but it wasn't supposed to be called in every situation (again, unless that changed as well as extending the rule to include jersey as well as pads).

spacecrime

?????

TO? Steve Smith? They made the rule because Roy Williams was breaking WRs ankles by grabbing the backs of their shoulder pads and lifting his feet off the ground, dragging the runner down from behind and causing him to collapse on his own ankles.

pats-blue

I was screaming at the TV to call that. The inane announcer said after the play that the defender eventually let go of the shoulder pad in time so the penalty wasn't called. If those that have the game tape the defender completely pulled him down by the back of the shoulder pads and didn't let go until Cassel hit the ground. It was a textbook "horsecollar" and should have been called. At least he wasn't hurt.

363839

FWIW. I saw Favre get sacked with what looked to me to be a horse collar tackle.
Nothing was called.