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Old 08-10-2006, 03:04 PM   #41
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Absolutely, positively right.

It's a straight fact that if you ask Patriots fans who their most hated division rival is - the overwhelming answer will be the Miami Dolphins.
Wrong. It's the JETS. And it isn't really hate. Look at it this way: If the Jets and Phins palyeach other, I am hoping the Jets lose. When I look at box scores, I check to see in Indy, Pittsburgh, Denver, Oakland, Jets have done, hoping they have all lost, before I evne think about Dolphins and Bills.

Sorry, you just aren't much of a rival yet. Even if you beat us, you still are feared. That one year the Redskins and Dolphins each beat us. Changed nothing in my mind. Neitehr team had my respect or admiration, even though they beat us.

Older Pats fans remember when the Dolphns were good, but you will need to climb higher for a fwew years before anyone worries about you. One or two winning seasons will make Pats fans notice you, but you need to win for a few years. Don't worry. It will happen eventually. Hang in there, bucky.
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Old 08-10-2006, 03:24 PM   #42
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Not strictly true... as the Dolphins were pretty close in the early 90's (Marino's achilles injury year was particularly tough to take), but your point is taken.

On the other hand, the reason the Dolphins are unquestionably the most hated division rival of every team in the East - is because they are always contending. Three sub .500 seasons in 36 YEARS. Most Patriots fans, on the other hand... don't have enough fingers and toes to count sub .500 Patriot seasons. (NOTE: I say MOST, because we are talking about a north-eastern based team... and contrary to stereotypes, the north east could teach the south TON's about in-breeding! LOL) j/k
There in no dobt the Phinz have some great history, but the fact of the matter is miami is not our most hated rival historically prob the jets, currently I would say the colts for me phinz being distant 4th or 5th. The only reason I ever hated Miami was Marino (the crybaby) much the way I am sure people hate Brady because they cant beat him.
And if you counting .500 seasons you are welcome too them.
(there is a reason people come to the northeast for higher education and go south to party j/k well sorta)
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Old 08-10-2006, 05:02 PM   #43
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I agree with all of the above.

It's the Jets, not Dolphins. Always has.
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Old 08-10-2006, 05:10 PM   #44
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I guess at one point you could say Pats fans disliked Marino more than the Jets, but it was never about hating the dolphins as a team. Personally, I dislike all other teams in the division equally
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According to wockenbauss, the '82 snowplow game and the AFCC game are "pretty much it as far as noticable irritants to dolphins fans from the pats franchise, if you exclude the last 5 years."
"If you exclude the last 5 years"? Surely you jest. If not, are you then not saying that the first 30 years are more relevant to this current debate? That statement is denial personified.
Don't forget, you have Daunte Culpepper and Joe Harrington as your QBs. 'Nuff said.
And if the Nicktator = Bill Belichick circa '91-'95, then we won't have to worry about you, or Mangini & the jesters, for another 8 years. G'bye.
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Old 08-10-2006, 07:13 PM   #46
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For us it's easily the Jets because they stole our rb and coach.

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Most hated...
1. Jets - border wars, NY
2. Colts - Manning, perrenial press favorites, Pollian, and now the Vinitraitor
3. Denvah - because they still kick our ass
4. Squealers - SB Champs w/o playing the Pats, Big Ben, Big Chin
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Miami - just another division rival without success against Brady & Belichick
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Old 08-30-2006, 11:55 AM   #48
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Wrong. It's the JETS. Hang in there, bucky.
Afc East : who you dislike more ?

Wasn't even CLOSE spacey, on your own forum. *snicker* But hang in there little buddy. lol
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Miami was 9-7 last year the Pats 10-6. It's not like we were 4-12 for a second strait season and the Pats won another SB. Miami didn't lose talent, they added it. The Pats did nothing to help their D in the Draft and they lost not only talent in players but coaching....again!! The Pats run won't last forever, other teams want to win too it's like the NFC east, the Eagles are no longer the team to beat in that division. I'm sure you go to any Eagles website at the start of last year and Eagle fans were spewing the same "we are the best team in the division" crap as Pat fans are now, all good things will come to an end it's just the way it is.

Unless you're going to ignore that the Patriots played their third stringers in the final game, you have to admit that last seasons Dolphins were an 8-8 ball club and the Patriots were an 11-5 team.

Literally I understand the facts, but if you try to act as though that 9th win was a straight-up victory then you're kidding yourself. That 'win' was probably more depressing to the Miami players than it was exhilerating. They barely won against our THIRD STRING. Yet Miami closed the season on a 6 game winning streak and everyone is hyped up about them.

We'll see soon enough how far the Phins have come and exactly how far the Pats have 'fallen'.
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Miami was 9-7 last year the Pats 10-6. It's not like we were 4-12 for a second strait season and the Pats won another SB. Miami didn't lose talent, they added it. The Pats did nothing to help their D in the Draft and they lost not only talent in players but coaching....again!!
This is, I think, a perfect illustration of the misconception re: the Patriots defense. Yes, we lost McGinest. And Chatham (oh no!). On the other hand, what they don't talk about is that we gained:

1) Rodney Harrison
2) a full year of Richard Seymour
3) far more production from Tedy "2005 PUP" Bruschi
4) Randall Gay, Chad Scott
5) full years from Artrell Hawkins and a more experienced Ellis Hobbs and James Sanders
6) an improved Tully Banta-Cain, now given an opportunity


Honestly, people's analysis of football is so dreadfully shallow, I can't even believe it. Maybe from clueless posters, not as up-to-speed on another team, but from professional pundits, whose JOB it is to know this stuff? Amazing.
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