JoeSixPat

Ah yes - I thought this was for the NY Times - apparently it was in "Times Select" which is their pay site

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mcbee

Mangini s/b referred to as Mangina IMO. Don't know how he escaped that name.

He sounds like a little weasel. Like someone left the 10 year old in charge and now he's getting bossy.

I predict disaster for him and the Jets.

onegameatatime

Not much love on the Jets site for the reporter.

Wouldn't you expect that while he was at the Pats, he was thinking what really works and what he would change? For now, he's going to go with what he knows -- BB's way -- and eventually will grow into more of his own style.

It is true though that BB can do just about anything and people think it's the right thing, when it may be just BB's way, and maybe it's better and maybe it makes no difference.

The approach will be blamed for his success or failure, although players, injuries, other coaches, and just luck play a big part.

Box_O_Rocks

No worries, links happen. As for the article, ho hum, the coach doesn't worship the media and demands players forget Coach Buttrub's hottub and do their sweating on the gridiron.

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Mike the Brit

I respectfully disagree. I think this article is a gross affront to the English language.

Read this paragraph:

"The last personable character in the Jets building exited at the end of last season, when Herman Edwards plunged to the organizational level of dysfunction and deception upon his awkward departure for Kansas City."

This is a truly terrible sentence. Apart from its intrinsic ugliness, it makes no good sense. How can Herman Edwards "plunge" to an "organizational level" -- what is an "organizatonal level" when it's at home (I would have thought it was the level that you were at in an organization - say, under-assistant to the West Coast promo man)? The sentence embodies the worst combination of pretentious striving after effect with the failure to express a precise thought.

The author then goes on to confuse "progeny" with "protege". She is using the word to show off and that angers me: if you don't know the meaning of complicated words, stick to simple ones!

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njpatsfan

The real question here is why you actually pay MONEY for content from the New York Slimes (or, alternatively, the Grey Ole Crack-wh0re).

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Brady'sButtBoy

Well, that could be a typo is the 'Herm plunged' sentence but there is some fine insight and really solid writing in the piece, including this gem full of the simple words you long for...
"Mangini needs his players. Players need Belichick."

And the very next paragraph following the sentence you find intrinsically ugly -

"The Jets rashly responded the way all N.F.L. teams do. They replaced one extreme with the opposite in excessiveness. Anyone who had been tutored within a halo’s glow of Bill Squared — either Belichick or Parcells — was good enough for the Jets. Mangini was the daily double, a progeny of both."

Oops, you couldn't have been on a vendetta of your own? No....

Cripes, how many of the knee jerk NYT bashers even bothered to read the article, which is better than 90% of sports work published today?

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njpatsfan

This reply on the jetsinsider site was hilarious, considering how we all feel about how the Globe snubs the Pats in favor of the Red Sox:

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patchick

I'm always amazed at people who casually call the Times a piece of trash. Have you ever read ANY other general daily newspaper in this country on a regular basis? There's just no comparison in quality.

Sorry if this is OT, but the topic's been on my mind today because of the AOL privacy fiasco. AOL's astonishing release of users' search histories is a REALLY F'ING BIG DEAL, but most mainstream news outlets didn't get that. They either glossed over it or focused on the voyeuristic pleasures of reading other people's private thoughts. (USAToday did the latter, very creepy.) But the Times did an excellent piece of real journalism. They demonstrated how non-anonymous the data really is by tracking down an individual based solely on her searches, and interviewing her about it. So are forums like Slashdot praising the Times? Nah, they're bashing the paper...because the article (which they quote religiously) was printed in the "Technology" section rather than general news. It's just fashionable in many quarters to ridicule the Times, regardless of merit. Personally, I'd hate to think where we'd all be without it.

So anyway, Selena Roberts. Maybe the article's unfair or even totally wrong. Or maybe not. Maybe it takes a trainwreck unfolding before her eyes for a veteran writer to come out with a piece as strongly worded as this one. The fact is that nobody has any clue whether Mangini will do well for the Jets at this point, and none of us sitting here has half the access or insight on the situation as the reporter. If that's really what she's seeing, should she not say it? (One part of the article certainly rang true for me -- the impression that Eric seems overwhelmed and even unhealthy.)

Seems to me the jury's out on this article. Personally, I hope it's wrong. But dismissing it because it was in the paper, no thanks.

Smash-MouthD

no big surprise to me, they are used to Herm Edwards having a breakdown every other day, now they have a coach running a tight ship and thay don't know how to react so the writter just makes it up trying to phsyco analyze Mangini after two weeks of camp just silly.