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Old 08-06-2006, 02:14 PM   #1
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Default The official "Branch is dead to me" thread.

I have loved Deion from the first game I saw him in. I always loved the fact that he could succeed despite his size. Like many here, I always thought he was a good guy.

But I have had enough. The recent revelation that Branch rejected a May Patriots offer worth more than $6 million a year, without any counteroffer, has turned me off completely. Worse, Branch and his agent have made no counteroffer because they feel that $6 million a year is "stratospheres apart" from what Branch is "owed".

In my opinion, someone who holds out - holds out after being offered a pretty favorable deal - is the very epitome of the "me first" player. In essence, the player is saying "***** you all, I'm getting mine". When NFL players say (of another player's contract issues) "it's just business", they aren't just talking about the relationship between said player and the FO - they are ALSO talking about the relationship between said player and his TEAMMATES. In cap physics, lots of money extorted by a single player impacts ALL the other players. It is the very antithesis of what we have come to expect from people who don the Patriots uniform.

I reject the attitude of several I've heard on this board, who say, in essence "Just give him what he wants - I don't care". I, for one, remember the crappy pre-Belichick teams that were handicapped by poor cap management. We ran out of cap money LAST year, hurting our ability to get quality replacements. I say, Never Again.

I also reject the contention that it's "all the agent's fault". Sure agents are scumbags. Sure, we've got one here (Chyut) that rivals the Postons for bottomfeeder(s) of the year. Is he getting bad advice ? Absolutely. But to reach the point we are at, where he hasn't even directed his agent to make counteroffer, and where his actions are hurting the team, the blame is 100% on Branch.

Branch may sign tomorrow. I will root for him and cheer when he makes a great play. But he will never be "Deion" to me again.

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Old 08-06-2006, 02:21 PM   #2
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be mad at the Patriots organization for being cheap, i dont know how much cap room they have, but i'm almost positive they have PLENTY. he will probably catch anywhere from 75-100 balls this year, and to still be in his rookie contract while doing that is ridiculous. he deserves more money, whether you think he should be asking for it or not.
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Old 08-06-2006, 02:25 PM   #3
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Default "Branch is dead to me" NOT YET..but close...

I agree..I do NOT want to give into him..I think what he has done smells pretty bad..from the "Poor Deion" tour to the no-class no show at the Charity golf tourney to the demanding of the Patriots to NO franchise him. Sorry..getting OLD very quick..and like stale food..smells pretty bad quick.
I will not say that yet..but I know the Pats WILL at some point move on and when they do that, I will follow them with their judgement. I keep hoping he'll get some sense, but I think it drained away when his expanded so much.
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Old 08-06-2006, 02:30 PM   #4
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I'm with you, buddy, the guy is just a greedy d!ck. He was always one of my guys, especially with the stuff with him calling his high school coach to thank him on the way to the SB. It turns out he's just a phony with a big smile.

F YOU Branch. When he comes back I'll root for him but not in the same way.
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Old 08-06-2006, 02:42 PM   #5
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be mad at the Patriots organization for being cheap, i dont know how much cap room they have, but i'm almost positive they have PLENTY. he will probably catch anywhere from 75-100 balls this year, and to still be in his rookie contract while doing that is ridiculous. he deserves more money, whether you think he should be asking for it or not.
Wow, what a myopic view.

Aside from this year, the Patriots have always spent to the cap, so the assertion that they are cheap is pure garbage.

As for what he will do this year, to catch 75-100 balls, he has to show up to play.

And what does being on a rookie contract have to do with ANYTHING? If Reggie Bush goes out and breaks the rushing record this year, should they renegotiate right away to give him more money? Also, as Reiss points out in his article, has Deion given any money back when he didn't play for 9 games?

Is Deion a good talent and a good find by the Patriots? Yes. But does he deserve more money now? No. He can get more money next year when he becomes a FREE AGENT.
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Old 08-06-2006, 03:10 PM   #6
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the Patriots have PLENTY of cap room right now, why not resign him and give him more money? it makes no sense...seriously,if they resign him and give him what he is asking for, he'll be happy, brady will be happy and they still probably have plenty of cap room...if they dont resign him, you have a disgruntled WR (if he even plays) and if he doesnt play, a QB without his #1 and #2 receivers from last year...doesn't make ANY sense.
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Old 08-06-2006, 03:33 PM   #7
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the Patriots have PLENTY of cap room right now, why not resign him and give him more money? it makes no sense...seriously,if they resign him and give him what he is asking for, he'll be happy, brady will be happy and they still probably have plenty of cap room...if they dont resign him, you have a disgruntled WR (if he even plays) and if he doesnt play, a QB without his #1 and #2 receivers from last year...doesn't make ANY sense.
EXACTLY

and THEN...maybe we can petition the league to rename the team to the New England Colts...!!

on second thought, I'm all for fiscal responsibility and building the 2006 NEPatriots in the same fashion as the 2001, 2003 and 3004 NEPatriots...

...how did they do again...?
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Old 08-06-2006, 03:43 PM   #8
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the Patriots have PLENTY of cap room right now, why not resign him and give him more money? it makes no sense...seriously,if they resign him and give him what he is asking for, he'll be happy, brady will be happy and they still probably have plenty of cap room...if they dont resign him, you have a disgruntled WR (if he even plays) and if he doesnt play, a QB without his #1 and #2 receivers from last year...doesn't make ANY sense.
Have you read the offer that the Patriots made to Branch's agent? Damn fair offer, more than I ever thought that they would.

Look guys we have not even played a preseason game yet - let's not jump off bridges yet. Ok- a few of you can.



Even Moe Green understood - it's not personal,it's just business.
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Old 08-06-2006, 04:05 PM   #9
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Default Re: The official "Branch is dead to me" thread.

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be mad at the Patriots organization for being cheap, i dont know how much cap room they have, but i'm almost positive they have PLENTY. he will probably catch anywhere from 75-100 balls this year, and to still be in his rookie contract while doing that is ridiculous. he deserves more money, whether you think he should be asking for it or not.
You obviously don't understand anything about the patriots or their management of the salary cap over the past several years.

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Old 08-06-2006, 04:09 PM   #10
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Ahhhh, I still like Deion. Amazes me people take this **** so personally.
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