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***shmessy*** · 07-31-2006, 01:24 PM

Hey folks, I had no intention of this causing personal hissy fits. Let's try to keep the personal bomb throwing to the political forum.

5 Rings for Brady!! · 07-31-2006, 01:32 PM

Shmessy: I think that critiquing the media around here is equivalent to opening one of the seven gates of Hell!

***patchick*** · 07-31-2006, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by shmessy

I read the Reiss/Solomon piece before reading the Tomase piece. My main reaction to the Reiss/Solomon article was "Why the hell didn't Warfield prepare and learn the playbook ahead of time?"

The Tomase article filled me in to the actual answer.

For what it's worth, same here.

A moment to be glad that this is still a two-newspaper town...an increasing rarity nowadays.

***MoLewisrocks*** · 07-31-2006, 03:32 PM

Actually like space said I think Tomase putting it back on the team is not the why. The why is as a player cut by KC who says he's determined to show he can be a starter here it was incumbant upon Warfield to do whatever it took to stay in touch with his playbook. He didn't. He appears to have learned that lesson the hard way, as so many do, and he is now working OT to make up for it. Hopefully it's not too late.

I got that from the Reiss/Solomon piece alone.

14thDragon · 08-01-2006, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by shmessy

I read the Reiss/Solomon piece before reading the Tomase piece. My main reaction to the Reiss/Solomon article was "Why the hell didn't Warfield prepare and learn the playbook ahead of time?"

The Tomase article filled me in to the actual answer.

The 5 W's of Journalism: Who, What, Where, When and Why. Tomase gave me the "Why".

Actually you need to look at them in conjuction to get the why.

The first part is that he could not do the studying away from the facilities because they refused to let him take the book with him.

The second is that he did not study at the facilities because he did not show up.

Shows really how both sides can slant things a to their own coloring. In the end, both articles makes it sound like he has learned that no matter how long you have been in the league, you are not prepared for the BB playbook.

flutie2phelan · 08-01-2006, 08:18 AM

I have an entirely different slant.
Sure, Warfield was foolish to shun his new workplace during the offseason.

But how could the front office not have come to a complete understanding with him ...
as a pre-condition of employment ...
that he works out and studies at Gillette from that day forward ?

This one seems to fall on Scott P.

***MoLewisrocks*** · 08-01-2006, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by flutie2phelan

I have an entirely different slant.
Sure, Warfield was foolish to shun his new workplace during the offseason.

But how could the front office not have come to a complete understanding with him ...
as a pre-condition of employment ...
that he works out and studies at Gillette from that day forward ?

This one seems to fall on Scott P.

You can tell them what you'd like them to do but you can't impose it as a pre-condition. The off season program is voluntary. Some players receive substantial bonus money tied to their participation in the program. All coaches would prefer to see 100% attendance, but players resist.

***shmessy*** · 08-01-2006, 09:23 AM

Interesting points of view on all this. This seems to be a "Chicken or the Egg" kind of thing, but I can definitely see both sides of this argument.

This subject alone could make an excellent chapter for James Lavin's next volume III.

5 Rings for Brady!! · 08-01-2006, 09:26 AM

Maybe we are gaining some insight into why Warfield has never been a great player, IMO. This guy is the definition of a B-level signing, IMO.