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Old 07-08-2006, 07:22 PM   #1
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We pickup David Patton upon release. We trade Branch to Philly and Graham to Bronco. That should get us a first and second round choice in next years draft and we could even send Neal to the west coast for a second rounder. That allows us to pick up a receiver plus a cornerback in the first round. The picks that are left, a future center and a blocking tightend. now depending on injuries we have a very good chance at three-in-a-row. no more contract disputes, a fully loaded team with no glaring weakness but that starts next year not now. we still have a shot this year but only if Brady and the kids click and Rodney comes back for second half of season. Dante can get one of the o-line picks to fill Neal's spot. look what he did last year. But if you can picture next year. Chad, Reche and a first rounder, with Bam and Stone filling in. Yes that means Troy Brown and David Patton will be gone but age catches up to everyone. This is an offense that is as good or better than the rest of the NFL. The rest of the decade Bill could concentrate on defensive players corners,linebackrs and d-line, plus he could go for the cream of the crop. Would like to know,what do you think?
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Old 07-08-2006, 07:33 PM   #2
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might as well trade brady while we're at it...
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Old 07-08-2006, 07:36 PM   #3
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I thought Owl's were suppose to be wise.
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Old 07-08-2006, 07:45 PM   #4
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If you were to trade Branch and Graham, you would be significantly diminishing our offense this year. They are both very productive players and with who would you replace that productivity?

It's easy to say "trade them because we won't be able to sign them." But what about that production for this year. Personally, I'd rather they just let them play out their final years here. At least we'd get 16 games and playoffs out of them this year and challenge for another SB.

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let me finish it for him.

we trade Brady to Lions for Mike Williams and 6th round pick. and get rid of Jackson and Matt Light for Donnie Edwards.

trade our 1st round pick and Watson for Matt Jones

Move Hobbs to QB and we will be back i nthe SB!
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Old 07-08-2006, 07:54 PM   #6
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That should get us a first and second round choice in next years draft and we could even send Neal to the west coast for a second rounder.
You whole plan is based on someone giving up a first rounder for Branch who could be a free agent in a year. If he was worth a first rounder to begin with. If Branch played for another team right now, and had one year to go, would you trade a first rounder for him?

A second rounder for Neal is even dumber. Why not trade Gorin for another second rounder?

While you are at it, why not trade Hochstein for a third rounder, and Asante for a first rounder. I'd let James Sanders go for a second round pick, and we could be helped by trading Koppen for a first rounder.

This is even dumber than the thread about which vet non-FA QB should be sign.
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Old 07-08-2006, 08:02 PM   #7
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No.


I've heard about giving up the present for the future, but this borders on plain maniacal.

This originates from "Owl's" obvious twisted outlook on this season along with a complete holdout-phobia - a common condition these days from those with an extreme obsession with Patriot philosophies but who are naively trying to find the related reasoning to this past offseason.
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Old 07-08-2006, 08:25 PM   #8
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let me finish it for him.

we trade Brady to Lions for Mike Williams and 6th round pick. and get rid of Jackson and Matt Light for Donnie Edwards.

trade our 1st round pick and Watson for Matt Jones

Move Hobbs to QB and we will be back i nthe SB!
You've got it all wrong, I think you're missing the logic here. You see we;
-trade Cassel to GB for a 1st rounder,
-trade Dillon to the Lions for a 1st rounder,
-trade Beisel to the Texans for a 1st rounder,
-trade Gay to the 49ers for a 1st rounder.
-Then we have the top 5 picks in the draft next year and use them to draft the top 5 Kickers in the draft.

Think of all the great plays BB could come up with when he has the 5 best kickers!
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To Cloud 34, PatsNutme, Remix 6, SpaceCrime, Pats 1, OntarioPatsFan:
First, Belichickholic, thanks for the welcome.
Now as to the team being decimated by these 3 moves, I can only say to the rest of you, how does your fantasy football team look? You know, the one with Bledsoe, Andruzzi, Woody, Tim Dwight, Andre Davis, Ted Washington, Lawyer Milloy, Ty Law, et al. Outside of Ty Law, who would double the National Debt, you can all keep these players, who when we lost them it was going to cost us all sorts of SB's. As to whether we can get 1st or 2nd round draft choices for these players, only time would tell. The idea is to package picks to get what we want. We'd also be able to pay Seymour his big bonus all this year or 1/2 this year and 1/2 next without crippling the team financially, allowing us to buy free agents in case of injury. And to all of those who relate Branch, Graham and Neal, separately or all together, on a par with Tom Brady or Richard Seymour, next time you're out in Las Vegas betting all your money on the Celtics and Bruins to win the Championship, you should give it a little more thought!

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To Cloud 34, PatsNutme, Remix 6, SpaceCrime, Pats 1, OntarioPatsFan:
First, Belichickholic, thanks for the welcome.
Now as to the team being decimated by these 3 moves, I can only say to the rest of you, how does your fantasy football team look? You know, the one with Bledsoe, Andruzzi, Woody, Tim Dwight, Andre Davis, Ted Washington, Lawyer Milloy, Ty Law, et al. Outside of Ty Law, who would double the National Debt, you can all keep these players, who when we lost them it was going to cost us all sorts of SB's. As to whether we can get 1st or 2nd round draft choices for these players, only time would tell. The idea is to package picks to get what we want. We'd also be able to pay Seymour his big bonus all this year or 1/2 this year and 1/2 next without crippling the team financially, allowing us to buy free agents in case of injury. And to all of those who relate Branch, Graham and Neal, separately or all together, on a par with Tom Brady or Richard Seymour, next time you're out in Las Vegas betting all your money on the Celtics and Bruins to win the Championship, you should give it a little more thought!
We all agree that the Patriots suffer 'loses' - Law, Andruzzi, Milloy, etc. - but as I said before, you're taking that philosophy/theory and stretching it to an unrealistic degree. It's all about keeping a good balance.

The idea is to win a championship each year.

http://www.boston.com/sports/footbal...built_to_last/

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Enduring success is Pioli's priority

By Mike Reiss, Globe Staff | June 18, 2006

FOXBOROUGH -- Classical music plays in the background as Scott Pioli leans back in his chair behind the large wooden desk, three computer screens flanking him in the meticulous office.

...

``When we first came here [in 2000], we wrote it down in our manual -- we're building a big, strong, fast, tough, smart, disciplined football team that consistently competes for championships," Pioli said. ``We don't want to subscribe to the theory that the window is only open for a short period of time, take a run at it, then worry about the next year, or worry about two years in two years.

``This is a `now' society. Now is important. But so is the future. From a team-building standpoint, you have to think that way."
As you can see, he isn't one who will take runs at championships by trading away picks, nor will he give up years by trading away for future picks.
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