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Old 07-24-2010, 11:46 AM   #21
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Moss was pretty banged up the last half of the season, which I believe helps explain why Revis says that Moss was a slouch.

I have much admiration for Moss, no WR has ever impressed me more, not even Rice.

FWIW I think Moss has about reached the end, I think he has lost the fire.
JMHO.

This will be Randy's last good year.

I heard that Welker was cleared to play and would not start on the PUP, congrats to him. Best slot receiver in the NFL, I hope he is back to form rite off the bat.
I disagree. Not many WR's in the league do this in Florida in June.

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Old 07-24-2010, 12:17 PM   #22
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Brady and Moss healthy along with Edelman and Holt ......I like it...Wes getting back is a bonus...

Tate healthy and with a better understanding of the playbook plus Price and 2 pretty decent college TE's should give Tom more open targets....

I'm excited to see just how good this offense can be.....
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Randy Moss gets dinged by critics because he is so outstanding that he makes it all look so absolutely effortless. That is sometimes interpreted as laziness and being uninvolved.

Randy wants all the HOF records, and will play to get as many as he can take from Rice.
I remember Moss's first game vs the Jets, where he started the "split the defense" post-TD celebraton.

I was annoyed before he caught the pass because he was just jogging his route. I complained to my son, who agreed. Then we watch the replay, and he said, "Hey, Dad, see those three Jets chasing Moss? He looks like he is jogging and it looks like they are running fast, so why is the gap widening with every step Moss takes?"

Moss still takes off plays. All WRs do, especially those who run go routes most of the time. But I will never again think Moss jogs out his routes.
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Revis does NOT benefit from the constant blitzing the Jets do. It is the other way around. The blitzes benefit from Revis' lockdown coverage. It's weird, but this is how the Jets defense worked last year. It started from the secondary in, not from the front 7. Rex has also stated that he likes building his defense from the outside in [he has an obsession with cornerbacks]. Kyle Wilson being drafted obviously proves this.

Anyway, it's proven already that Revis can shut down Moss. Sooo, yeah...
This is true.. Ryan's ability to throw so much up front depends on entrusting Revis with being on an island, and for the most part this has worked, but this is the achilles heel of that defense, and is why Revis is holding out- because he shoulders a bigger load of the D than the rest. I have argued that if Revis goes down, that D becomes average (even with Cromartie).

For the most part Revis has shut down Moss (but with help over the top), and the only TD Moss got was out of a play specifically designed for that game, a quick slant to the left curl or hook if I remember, that caught Revis completely by surprise.

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The Jets had the best defense in the league last year, so it should be no surprise that they did a good job on Moss. IIRC, in the 2 games Moss had 9 receptions 56 yds and 1 TD. However in all due respect to the Jet fans who will post on this thread. The Stats could have been a whole lot better had Brady connected on those 2 deep passes to a WIDE-OPEN Randy Moss in game 1 (the outcome might have been different as well )

In the second game, Rex's schemes were pretty much deciphered when the Pats put up over 300 passing yds against the best pass defense in the league.

A lot of Rex's very creative schemes are merely blue smoke and mirrors. They rely on creating confusion and mistakes because it is difficult to tell where the pressure is coming from. HOWEVER if you can figure it out, there are holes that can be exploited. And the Pats did just that in game 2. Jet fans better hope that Rex can come up with a better plan than that, because the Pats will more prepared than they were in game one last season.
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HOWEVER if you can figure it out, there are holes that can be exploited. And the Pats did just that in game 2. Jet fans better hope that Rex can come up with a better plan than that, because the Pats will more prepared than they were in game one last season.
It will be interesting to see how they fare this year, now that coaches have had an entire season on tape, and the whole summer to analyze them.
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We all agree Revis did the best job at CB last year, right? So the question is whether or not he'll repeat. There's a lot more tape on the guy now. We will see.
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wrong...Nnamdi Asomugha did the best job...when you learn to spell that correctly you can foray into the land of "rediculous" and "existance".two words you seem intent on butchering in famous "J-E-S-T!!!" fashion.
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Stop with this nonsense. Unlike you I don't rely on others to tell me how I should think about things. I draw my own conclusions by what I see. I see tons of natural ability with Randy Moss. I also see a guy who dogs it quite often, who pouts if the ball isnt coming his way and a guy who's never won a damn
thing in the NFL.
Question is has this WR been a good influence on Tom Brady??
I don't think so at all. Brady has fallen into a bad habit to forcing balls into double coverage looking for his binky. Cost them the Miami game last year because of it. Very unBrady like behavior witrh Moss around.
Ha. If Rodney Harrison had just pried that ball loose in the NYG Super Bowl (or Assante made the INT) all you spoiled fans would be singing a different tune (actually you would complain that the 2009 was not perfect).

What WR does not pout when he does not get the ball? Moss is mild compared to the true prima donna's that you guys lust after.

Stop listening to the bile from Felger and Callahan...."Those are not the droids we are looking for and Randy Moss is a quitter". Did you see Moss on the sidelines during the Colts game; he was pumped!

Moss is the best WR the Patriots have ever had (by a long shot) and probably the best they will ever have. He is intelligent and hard working and a student of the game. He is highly respected by his teammates and the coaches (even if he is not respected by the (somewhat racist) dingbats in the media; I seriously think that Callahan is unbalanced).
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Callahan?...unbalanced??...naw...can't be...he's just chromosomally challenged
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