Price: Pats could end up near tops of league in two-a-days - New England Patriots Forums

**Ian** · 07-22-2010, 04:17 PM

Chris Price has an interesting entry, as it appears the Patriots will be one of the harder working teams in the league this year:

It Is What It Is Pats could end up near tops of league in two-a-days

BionicPatriot · 07-22-2010, 04:47 PM

That's good. They need it, they deserve it after last year. I hope most of these sessions focus on the mental aspect of the game, situational football and the like. This team didn't suck last year. It just sucked when they played a good team, had to make a play, when the 4th quarter came, etc. All situational, mental things.

You know the 03 squad is the poster child probably for any team ever of mental toughness. They weren't a great team. They were a great defense, mixed with smart as fox players that made that team great. The training camp videos you see the most from those times is Belichick preaching, absolutely pounding situational football down their throats.

I don't know if hes gotten away from it or what but where the hell was it last year

FootballCEO · 07-22-2010, 05:07 PM

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***mgteich*** · 07-22-2010, 05:37 PM

What a load of crap!

The 2003 and 2004 patriots were among the greatest teams ever to play in the nfl (as was the 2007 patriots).

You have already noted the defense was great. I would match the OFFENSE against the 2010 offense any day. And just BTW, I believe that we have one of the top 5 offenses in the league this year.

QB Brady
RB Dillon, Faulk
WR Branch, Brown, Patten, Givens, Johnson (kr)
TE Graham, Fauria
OL Light, Andruzzi, Koppen, Neal, Gorin, Hochstein, Yates

And it was not Belichick yelling at them in two a days that made this group a great offense. IMHO, it was talent, leadership and coaching that made this group a great offense.

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Originally Posted by BionicPatriot

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You know the 03 squad is the poster child probably for any team ever of mental toughness. They weren't a great team. They were a great defense, mixed with smart as fox players that made that team great. The training camp videos you see the most from those times is Belichick preaching, absolutely pounding situational football down their throats.

I don't know if hes gotten away from it or what but where the hell was it last year

***Deus Irae*** · 07-22-2010, 05:37 PM

Given:

A.) The number of rookies and 2nd year players

B.) The coaching changes

C.) The inconsistent and, often, shoddy play of last season

D.) BB's famous policy of staggering rests for veterans

I hope the Patriots use ever single allowed practice, with the exception of the "good job" cancellation, no matter how many two-a-days that required.

***mgteich*** · 07-22-2010, 05:49 PM

We should have as many two a days as required. As you say, this is especially needed for 1st and 2nd year players (and guys like Wheatley and Crable). However the vets do NOT need two a days, especially the running backs. Or perhaps the running backs should be worked harder because of their shoddy 2009 play????????

BTW, I strongly disagree that players should be pounished for last year's play. Who should be punished for their play while injured? Brady? Mayo? What about Watson, Baker, and Thomas?

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Originally Posted by Deus Irae

Given:

A.) The number of rookies and 2nd year players

B.) The coaching changes

C.) The inconsistent and, often, shoddy play of last season

D.) BB's famous policy of staggering rests for veterans

I hope the Patriots use ever single allowed practice, with the exception of the "good job" cancellation, no matter how many two-a-days that required.

***Deus Irae*** · 07-22-2010, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mgteich

We should have as many two a days as required. As you say, this is especially needed for 1st and 2nd year players (and guys like Wheatley and Crable). However the vets do NOT need two a days, especially the running backs. Or perhaps the running backs should be worked harder because of their shoddy 2009 play????????

BTW, I strongly disagree that players should be pounished for last year's play. Who should be punished for their play while injured? Brady? Mayo? What about Watson, Baker, and Thomas?

I never mentioned punishment, so I'm not sure where that's coming from on your end.......... And, yes, inconsistent and/or shoddy play by a team should lead to more practice time for that team, as a general rule. That's not punishment. That's attempting to improve.

the wrothbroughterer · 07-22-2010, 06:00 PM

I'm all for hard work and being prepared for the season but they better not be run into the ground before week 1.

***MassPats38*** · 07-22-2010, 06:06 PM

Here's hoping we don't end up with a bunch of rookies and veterans on IR and PUP at the end of these sessions.

But I am all for the players getting reps at the positions to infuse the new blood and get everybody on the same page for the season. If they are ready to go early, take some time off and rest up.

***BradyFTW!*** · 07-22-2010, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BionicPatriot

That's good. They need it, they deserve it after last year. I hope most of these sessions focus on the mental aspect of the game, situational football and the like. This team didn't suck last year. It just sucked when they played a good team, had to make a play, when the 4th quarter came, etc. All situational, mental things.

You know the 03 squad is the poster child probably for any team ever of mental toughness. They weren't a great team. They were a great defense, mixed with smart as fox players that made that team great. The training camp videos you see the most from those times is Belichick preaching, absolutely pounding situational football down their throats.

I don't know if hes gotten away from it or what but where the hell was it last year

I agree, but if I had to hazard a guess I'd say that the change last year had nothing to do with Belichick, and everything to do with the makeup of the players and coaches. He's dealing with younger guys than he had in 2003, and perhaps more importantly he no longer has caliber of assistants around that he used to. The talent drain on the Pats' coaching ranks over the years has been pretty brutal.