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I thought BB preached best player available, and not need?
Nope. BB preaches best VALUE. And, from the things I have read, that value equation INCLUDES Team need as well as the Player's tangibles and intangibles.
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BB said he felt Maroney was the best player available. Down here in Carolina, I can tell you Panther fans felt as if they had to settle for Williams.
No. That is incorrect. BB said he felt they took the best VALUE available.
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So he in fact did exactly as he has preached, IMO.
And BB drafting a tight end in any round is consistent. He'll probably draft two more tommorow!
No. BB didn't draft as he preached because he has preached building from the trenches. And, previoiusly, he has given the impression that the OLB in the 3-4 was the 2nd level of the trenches on defense similar to the TEs being the 2nd level of the trenches on the offense.
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Nope. BB preaches best VALUE. And, from the things I have read, that value equation INCLUDES Team need as well as the Player's tangibles and intangibles.
No. That is incorrect. BB said he felt they took the best VALUE available.
No. BB didn't draft as he preached because he has preached building from the trenches. And, previoiusly, he has given the impression that the OLB in the 3-4 was the 2nd level of the trenches on defense similar to the TEs being the 2nd level of the trenches on the offense.
While I would have liked to see a LB too, it seems doubtful they'll find anyone really sweet for the OLB position at this stage, unless there's a to-be-converted DE they're looking at. Or Alston? But if Vrabel moves outside, there are a few ILB possibilities left, some of whom sound pretty good, like Dobbins. No?
Nope. BB preaches best VALUE. And, from the things I have read, that value equation INCLUDES Team need as well as the Player's tangibles and intangibles.
No. That is incorrect. BB said he felt they took the best VALUE available.
No. BB didn't draft as he preached because he has preached building from the trenches. And, previoiusly, he has given the impression that the OLB in the 3-4 was the 2nd level of the trenches on defense similar to the TEs being the 2nd level of the trenches on the offense.
"No. That is incorrect. BB said he felt they took the best VALUE available"
Well......I think he is referring to the best value available ....IN relation to what he feels our NEEDS are.......BB obviously feels that RB IS A HIGH priority.......Maroney was the BEST RB prospect on the board at that point (in his opinion) and that is why he is a New England Patriot.
What I am getting at is.....two years ago (believe it was 2) Steven Jackson was on the board and was undoubtedly the highest "valued" player on the board (if you go by top 100's)....but BB passed over Jackson......and drafted Vince Wilfork.....based on our NEEDS at the time........you take the highest value for THE positional need you are after...good post.....
One thought for food......Loading up on Offense, getting Tom more weapons may have the desired effect of keeping our older defensive(see LB's) players off the field and better rested!!! Would have been sweet if we could have gotten Mangold tho'!! I'm sure we'll see some LB and DB today!
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What I am getting at is.....two years ago (believe it was 2) Steven Jackson was on the board and was undoubtedly the highest "valued" player on the board (if you go by top 100's)....but BB passed over Jackson......and drafted Vince Wilfork.....based on our NEEDS at the time........you take the highest value for THE positional need you are after...good post.....
The key phrase their is "if you go by top 100s" It makes an assumption that isn't true.
The Pats don't go by the conventioanl top 100. Never have. They don't subscribe to the scouting services most teams do and their draft board looks totally different.
According to Holley's book BB had a 4 player list in that draft that he would have traded up to pick if he could have: Deangelo Hall, Donta Robinson, Wilfork, and Vilma.
The Pats thought Wilfork was a guy whose value was high enough to trade up for. They thought his value was worth more than just the 21st pick. The idea that Jackson was a better value on their board but they passed on him and drafted Wilfork for need doesn't add up.
I have something to say to those who are whining about how we went with all O players on the first day.
Look at what we did in the playoffs last year. In Jax, we scored 21 points on offense (7 on defense). Our offense was nothing special. Just efficient, but rather slow. It seemed as though if Jax had made one play the game would have been much more competitive.Our DEFENSE limited the Jax offense to 3 points. 3 points! And that was without Bruschi.
In Denver, it was our O that lost us the game. We could not get the O going, and turnovers resulted. Our D held very sturdy, and limited Denver to very few yards (even if they had a short field to go). Why should we not go O on the first day of the draft?
Like many of you, I am worried about our LB position. This is the only defensive position I'm worried about. If we move Vrabel outside, we have Beisel and Bruschi in the middle which is fine. It's not great and I'd rather have a replacement for Beisel, but it's fine. The Jax game proved that this setup can work. But in the end, it was our O who ended our season and thus, it is the O that BB decided to upgrade the most today.
Draft picks happen for a reason. BB picked Maroney and not D. Williams for a reason. BB and crew picked Thomas and not a LB for a reason. And frankly, they know MUCH more about the teams needs than any of us.
The only people who should be angry with the Patriots draft yesterday are Jet, Colts, or Dolphin fans.
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Agreed, it was a very good day one. There are still PLENTY of D to draft on day 2.
Of course, but Im not concerned at all that BB wont be able to find a handful of defensive gems today.
ps- I still cant believe they got Jackson. Unreal.
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Bb knows what he is doing,the offence will be great if these two can contribute.
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Bb knows what he is doing,the offence will be great if these two can contribute.
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