robertweathers

Still need to shed blockers at OLB, atombomb. Also he is not much of a pass rusher.

I like GG and believe that there is a place for him on the roster, but he just doesn't bring the physicalliy that the D needs at the LB spot as a starter.

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bucky

Pressure will come from McCourty blitzing from the nickel DB spot.

In all seriousness though (although the McCourty comment was only a half-joke), Green and Burgess were only effective in the sub packages - and they were replaced with Lewis and Cunningham. Is it an upgrade? Given the performance of those 2 guys last year, I would say worst case scenario is that it's a lateral move. In the base D, Green was ineffective and Burgess was never on the field. I think there are enough bodies to fill in adequately at DE. I have no idea what happens at OLB.

FreeTedWilliams

Do not sleep on Weston, he seems like a throw away pick, but is he has battled injuries during his UGA career. He is a four year starter, he has the size and speed to play the DE in the 3-4. Is he the next Richard Seymour, no, but he comes from the same system as Seymour, Henderson, Stroud, etc.......

Weston is huge 6-5 320, and ran a faster 40 than Spikes (4.99) the entire Georgia D-line has suffered serious injuries the last two years, dropping the stock of all of them. But a great pick for the Pats here, watch him make this team and at the very least replace Jarvius Green.......

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patsox23

Chatham was "done," even when he was still playing in the NFL.

JMarr

We don't know whether he's capable of becoming a great OLB or not yet. Too small of a sample size and this will only be his third year in the league. Pass rushing, shedding blocks and setting the edge are all things that can be taught.

Guyton fit's BB's physical "prototype" for OLB almost perfectly and I believe he was playing ILB mainly due to injuries, not the fact that he was particularly bad as an OLB. With BB drafting McKenzie and Spikes, I see BB having Guyton compete for a starting OLB position this year. Regardless of he's successful, he is still great depth for us.

robertweathers

The odds of Gary Guyton becomming a great LB are slim to none. Based on his first two years in the league, the odds of GG having a solid NFL career as a backup and spot-starter are very good.


You can teach all of those things, but if you don't have the physical makeup, you can't execute at a high-level. That is my biggest issue w/ Guyton. 6-2 242 is not that big for an NFL OLB in a 3-4. In a 4-3 he is protected more for sure.


He will compete. People compare GG to Roman Peiffer. RP was much more physical at the point of attack and because of his experience, better in coverage. GG is not at that level- yet. He will compete for a OLB spot but not in the 3-4 set. 4-3 and nickel/dime packages for sure.

No question. I'm glad he is on the team

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Ghost of Ben Dreith

Well.....he was worth taking a chance on him for sure.

I don't think we are necessarily better or worse than last year. That itself is an indictment on how we addressed this outside LB pass rush issue in the offseason.

I'm guessing if we do improve it will be via more blitzing/better blitz schemes coupled with a better LB corp and secondary than by actually having noticibly better personnel on the line. Everybody having another year under their belts helps too.

JMarr

Sorry, I didn't look up the numbers, but I thought Guyton was taller than 6-2. I think it remains to be seen if he can get to the QB consistently. Probably wishful thinking, but I just think he's much better suited on the outside. You're right, he probably will never be a "great" player, but look how long it took guys like Bruschi and Vrabel to "get it." Right around 3-4 years.

spacecrime

Neither did Weathers. I did. Guyton is 6'3", same as Colvin. See links below.

Well, that is a bit overstated. Barry Sanders was way too small to be a RB, and Drew Brees and Doug Flutie were way too short to be QBs.

I would say, if you don't have the physical makeup, you are less likely to be able to execute at a high-level.

Guyton is listed at 6'3"
Gary Guyton
the same as Rosie Colvin
Rosevelt Colvin

so to say he CAN'T execute at a high level isn't right. Whatever will keep Guyton from being special, it is not height.

patsfaninpittsburgh

teigh

Over the weekend, Jim Mora Jr noted that five years ago, defenses were in base 60% of the time since then the situation has "reversed"....and then Dukes started talking....and talking...so the stats were never revealed.

How about working back by analyzing our 13 opponents and ideal personnel groupings for those 13 offenses.

Obviously, personnel groups for Indy/San Diego will be different than say a Green Bay and a Favreless Vikings.