Bob Ryan Just Blasted The Pats On WROR - New England Patriots Forums

***bresna*** · 03-23-2006, 06:38 AM

He was asked about AV's signing.

He started out with "In Bill I Trust" but by the end of the conversation he was saying that of the whole team, AV and Brady were the two franchise guys and he went as far as saying AV was more valuable than Brady!

He also said that Bob Kraft should have stepped in and told BB that this was a case where the budget shouldn't be discussed.

Of course, Ryan prefaced all of this with a statement that if AV just comes out and tells everyone that this was all his doing, he'd forgive the Pats.

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Almost forgot... Ryan also mentioned that Bill Parcells always claimed that Lawrence Taylor "made him what he was". In other words, because of LT, Parcells became a great coach. Ryan then went to say that AV "made" BB the coach he is. According to Ryan, without AV, we wouldn't have 3 Superbowl championships. Of course, he only cited the SnowBowl kicks.

big mike · 03-23-2006, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by bresna

He was asked about AV's signing.

He started out with "In Bill I Trust" but by the end of the conversation he was saying that of the whole team, AV and Brady were the two franchise guys and he went as far as saying AV was more valuable than Brady!

He also said that Bob Kraft should have stepped in and told BB that this was a case where the budget shouldn't be discussed.

Of course, Ryan prefaced all of this with a statement that if AV just comes out and tells everyone that this was all his doing, he'd forgive the Pats.

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Almost forgot... Ryan also mentioned that Bill Parcells always claimed that Lawrence Taylor "made him what he was". In other words, because of LT, Parcells became a great coach. Ryan then went to say that AV "made" BB the coach he is. According to Ryan, without AV, we wouldn't have 3 Superbowl championships. Of course, he only cited the SnowBowl kicks.

While I disagree with most of what you quote Ryan as saying above, I do think that most likely, if we had any other kicker in the league, the Pats wouldn't have won all three of those Super Bowls.

Pats726 · 03-23-2006, 06:49 AM

Isn't it fashionable to blast the Patriots now?? Jump on the bandwagon Bob..maybe you are just getting senile..or that some of Borges is rubbing off...

Brick · 03-23-2006, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by big mike

I do think that most likely, if we had any other kicker in the league, the Pats wouldn't have won all three of those Super Bowls.

Exactly, a lot of people seem to be discounting this little tidbit as they robotically declare how genius the Pats are after very player defection...

IMO Ryan was a little delusional with the AV over Brady comment though.

dhamz · 03-23-2006, 07:03 AM

Adam more important thatn Brady? Is Ryan drunk on the air?

Adam was the MVP that first playoff run. No one can say otherwsie.

The idea he is somehow the first or second most vital guy is just nuts. How about Seymour or Vrabel or Bruschi or Branch or Willie or Rodney or Ty Law or even some OL guys like Light.

He was an important piece but get a grip. More valuable than Brady?

sarge · 03-23-2006, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by big mike

While I disagree with most of what you quote Ryan as saying above, I do think that most likely, if we had any other kicker in the league, the Pats wouldn't have won all three of those Super Bowls.

Probably not the first, But probably the second and without a doubt the third

***PATSNUTme*** · 03-23-2006, 07:11 AM

Just posted a thread saying that the Patiots front office was ranked #1 in ESPN's Draft Guide.

And , Bob Ryan is ranked where as far as national sports writers? His best days were when he was covering the Celtics and Bird. Been all down hill fro him from there.

Patriotic Fervor · 03-23-2006, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by PATSNUTme

Just posted a thread saying that the Patiots front office was ranked #1 in ESPN's Draft Guide.

And , Bob Ryan is ranked where as far as national sports writers? His best days were when he was covering the Celtics and Bird. Been all down hill fro him from there.

The Celtics and Bird? Those were halcyon days, weren't they?

Dank Franklin · 03-23-2006, 09:02 AM

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if we had any other kicker in the league, the Pats wouldn't have won all three of those Super Bowls.

So Adam Vinateri is the only kicker in the league who could have made a 48 yard kick and a 41 yard kick in a dome? That's absurd! Let's not forget he missed a chipshot field goal of 31 measley yards in Superbowl 38.

***maverick4*** · 03-23-2006, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by big mike

While I disagree with most of what you quote Ryan as saying above, I do think that most likely, if we had any other kicker in the league, the Pats wouldn't have won all three of those Super Bowls.

How does this have anything to do with giving out contracts for the future?

Why can't we, as fans, appreciate what Vinatieri did, while understanding that the Pats didn't think AV was worth another 3 million-dollar contract? Adam was only 4-8 from 40+ field goals last year. Remember how many times Belichick went for it on 4th on the 30-35 yard line? He had no faith in the field goal.

Packers fans: But we can't cut Favre! He was so good 5 years ago!!
Patriots fans: But we can't find another kicker! AV was the reason we won three years ago!!

WAAAAH. Give me a break.

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