makoute

Or maybe they were trying to take advantage of the uncap year?

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emoney_33

There's no way they could have known for a fact there would be an uncapped year.

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emoney_33

All actual cash (to players) goes against the cap one way or another. So yes other years you have higher cash paid due to when you pay out bonuses but the cap still limits the amount of cash you are allowed to spend. Whether you spend some of next year's cap this year or not doesn't really change that. Their cash spent over the long-term is going to roughly equal the total cap numbers added up over the long term.

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supafly

Actually, they were going to take advantage no matter what, and were extremely well prepared.

Cowboys planned well for the uncapped year | ProFootballTalk.com

It's kind of interesting that you stated in the other thread that 'the only teams who could take advantage of the uncapped year would have to spend OVER the 127 million total of 2009'--then a poster (makoute) points out the Cowboys total of 153 million, and you somehow downplay that too.

Since there aren't any threads left in this forum where you haven't spent pages upon pages arguing with every established poster imaginable (deus irae, mgteich, patriotsfaninpa, molewisrocks, jmt57) regarding just about every topic imaginable, by annoyingly breaking down their every sentence, I thought your double talking was especially interesting here.

The other day you had pissing match-arguments going in about 75% of the top 10-15 threads--why can't you just realize that different people have different opinions?

You were on both cap related threads, the WR thread, the RB situation thread, the 'complaints, more complaints' thread, the all-decade team thread, the Welker rotator cuff thread, the diabetes thread, the brandon marshall thread, and several other ones--arguing with anyone and everyone, all at the same time, over different subjects that YOU did not agree with. Again, what gives? Most of us are here to discuss different topics while providing insight at different angles, yet you seem to simply want to disagree with anyone, if they don't agree with you. Sometimes it's not about being right or wrong, it's about being respectful and appreciating others' points of view--even IF you do not agree.

emoney_33

I will readily admit that the Cowboys FO knows a crapload more than I do, and ya know it's more likely that the "league source" is correct that they structured the contracts in such a way that they would have an "out" so to speak if there were a cap this year. Kudos to the Cowboys for their forward thinking. I wish I could see all the examples of their out possibilities, but I'm not so arrogant as to believe that there isn't a lot facts that I don't know about the situation beyond the known 153 hard number.

I have also already conceded that at first glance it is likely the Bears are trying to take advantage of the uncapped year. Although in both cases, Bears and Cowboys, if their cap numbers end up being low then it changes the argument. My main thinking, and I'm not sure which thread it came up in, is that it isn't fair to accuse the Patriots of not taking advantage while others are in March.

Deus is an arrogant douche and I really don't give a damn about that argumentative idiot. He is another one who has terrible logic skills, but the worst part is he jumps in on discussions JUST to be contrarian. I have pointed out some of his best contradictions and obvious intent to do nothing but argue. Patriotsfaninpa is another negative nancy idiot with wacky logic that calls people idiots for making valid points. Both of them have me on ignore, and I couldn't care less. I suppose it's better for the board, I tend to not be completely respectful when it's clear a poster is just being a prick.

I have not had many long arguments with mgtiech nor jmt57. I have had very few disagreements with Mo over the past few years, and really it's only the Moss/WR situation that I have disagreed heavily with him on.

I'm fine with different opinions. I'm not fine with the type of terrible logic that is often thrown around in certain debates.

So I posted in a lot of threads and posted my thoughts... Isn't that what a messageboard is for? It's not like I am hijacking threads, or that everyone else's comments in the thread are "i agree" "yep" "no arguments here", while I'm the only one in disagreement.

It's one thing to have different opinions while posting coherent and logical arguments. It's another thing to go off on tangents, ignore facts, nitpick certain points, attack the poster's character, put words in others mouths etc... I find it disrespectful to intentionally do these things, and when it goes on long enough like in the case of the aforementioned douche, yes I admit I can get a little disrespectful myself.

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supafly

^^^

Well, that's a fair enough response. I guess it's simply that you've had poor run-ins with some specific posters, which is way different than it first appeared, not to mention none of my business then also. It seemed as though you were the one at first who was a bit argumentative, and people like that add to the general level of negativity--which already seems worse lately. I guess everyone's here for a reason, and if you like to have back and forths that are that intense, then more power to you. It does take a little while to get used to however.

Apologies then for being wrong in judgement, look forward to having thoughtful discussions in the future with no hard feelings.

emoney_33

Don't apologize, if I'm coming off as a jackass I actually prefer you be direct and let me know about it. It's just hard to read blatant disregard for facts and logic at times, but I'll ease up.

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Armen Da Pats Fan

Exactly, who gives a schott!

It is what it is.

I wish the Pats would stop thinking about the fargin' salary cap and start thinking about getting an every down running back!

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VJCPatriot

And we haven't extended Tom Brady yet. So what's your point?

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letekro

Post of the Year candidate.