Breer on Julius Peppers - New England Patriots Forums

BradyManny · 02-16-2010, 09:47 AM

Interesting read from Breer, as usual:

Is Peppers another Reggie White?

Call me crazy, and I'm sure plenty will, but I'd rather pay big money to a player that is going to play 90% or greater of the snaps than one who is going to play 60% or less (ie, Big Vince - who according to Reiss played 51% of snaps). I'm not explicitly stating that I'd rather have Peppers over Wilfork, b/c I don't know for sure how Peppers projects into this system. But particularly given the state of the league, and the fact that two passing teams just battled it out for the Super Bowl, I think you could make a strong argument that a 2-down run stuffer does not deserve the same $$ that a 3 down pass rushing beast does, in any defense, including ours.

woolster22 · 02-16-2010, 10:00 AM

I think he would look pretty good in the flying elvis, the question is at what cost though. If we tag vince and bring in Peppers...well lets just say that Vince will be one LARGE unhappy camper. It will be fun to see how this offseason shapes up though. Theres a lot of question marks surrounding the defense this year and it will be interesting to see how the team handles them.

The_Riddler · 02-16-2010, 10:03 AM

Kirwan sees Peppers as a Patriot.

NFL.com Blogs Blog Archive Peppers to … Patriots?

Landing Peppers will do so much for our draft alone, never mind the impact on our football team. We could draft an Iaputi or a Bulaga at #22 to step right in on the offensive line and we can focus on WR, RB and DE with the 3 2-s.

robertweathers · 02-16-2010, 10:04 AM

Call me financially irresponsible, but I'd like to see the the Pats make a big run at Peppers. Worse case we get two excellent years out of a 4 year deal and a bone-fide pass rush to boot and insert personal conduct clauses and lockout safeguards in the contract.

Make it happen.

Sicilian · 02-16-2010, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by woolster22

I think he would look pretty good in the flying elvis, the question is at what cost though. If we tag vince and bring in Peppers...well lets just say that Vince will be one LARGE unhappy camper.

That's the big one. If we bring in Peppers on a big deal, we better give Vince a long term contract, or tag and trade him. It can do some bad things to locker room chemistry if you give an outsider a truck full of cash and won't pay one of your team captains. Not saying the money has to be similar at all, but the respect needs to be there for that to work.

***Patjew*** · 02-16-2010, 10:11 AM

Sign the motherfvcuker.

I'm not kidding.

Sign him now.

"Where will we play, we have Seymour, this is a 3-4, he's not an LB, bra bra bra?"

That's done.

Sign the beast.

and I'll say it again:

***Rob0729*** · 02-16-2010, 10:13 AM

This from MMQB tells me that Peppers probably will come a lot cheaper than people think he will:

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I think the four GM-types I talked to last week had no answer to how anyone will structure a contract that gets free-agent defensive end Julius Peppers signed. There's not only the part about paying him what he thinks he's worth -- in excess of $15-million a year, which won't happen -- but also the part about giving a 30-year-old player lots of guaranteed money and then having the 2011 season disrupted or ruined with a job action.

Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, Conrad Dobler, more NFL news - Peter King - SI.com

I could see Peppers as a Patriot and I think he is not going to get the mind-numbing deal people think he is getting. I think teams will be scared off by his age and perceived asking price.

satz · 02-16-2010, 10:13 AM

One more thing is if we got after peppers and pay him say 30-40 million
money in a 5-6 yr deal. I think we can have him.

If pats set this up though brady is not going to buy the whole get a home town discount logic for that matter mankins,ghost or even vince.

robertweathers · 02-16-2010, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Patjew

Sign the motherfvcuker.

Just digging into his stats more....

Last year, Peppers had 2 picks and 5 forced fumbles. For his career, he has forced 30 fumbles....30. That blows me away.

In the front-7, TBC led the team last year with 2.

Last year, Peppers had 33 QB pressures last year and 46 the year before.

Burgess and TBC had 46 pressures last year COMBINED. Wright led all pure-DLs w/ 14 last year.

The more I think about this, as long as the $$ doesn't crush the team's long-term financial structure, they need to pull a Yankees/Sabathia type of blown-away offer and get 'em.

***Rob0729*** · 02-16-2010, 10:23 AM

BTW, as I said several times, I heard an interview with a local Panthers' beat writer last summer and he said that Peppers being all about the money is overblown. Peppers has turned down local endorsement deals throughout his career eventhough in the Carolina's he was as big as Brady is here at least until the last few years. So he left millions on the table rather than pimping himself out.

He also has his old college professor as his agent which tells me that he is either stupid or values loyalty over getting shark agents like Tom Condon or Drew Rosenhaus to get the Panthers to set the market with a new deal. If he dumped his professor, I am sure Condon or Rosenhaus would have gotten him a Haynesworth deal. From what I can tell, Peppers is a fairly bright guy for a non-QB, football player. So I guess he does value some things over money.

Also, the beat writer said he felt Peppers motivation was to get out of Carolina, not get paid the highest paid contract. He felt that Peppers had always lives and played in the Carolinas (high school, college, and pros) and wanted to play elsewhere and used his contract demands to get out of Carolina without trashing the team or demanding a trade by saying derogatory things about the team and area.