eagle eye

I'm just wondering what people's thoughts are on this. It seems they haven't even approached him about a new deal. Is there something wrong in New England since Pioli left, these things seem to be left until the last minute. I know a lot of the players were taken aback by the trade of Seymour, this non-contact with Vince seems like a really bad idea to me.
It stinks of indecision on the part of the Patriots. Why leave this so late? Is it that they are leaning towards going to a 4-3 base? Has it got something to do with the CBA?
Why would we franchise the guy when its clear he wants a good long term deal and doesn't appear to want to break the bank either?
Would you take 1st and 2nd round picks in this years draft for him?
Is Myron Pryor good enough to start in 2010? I think he is well ahead of Brace.

I'm just confused by it all really. I've no problem if they let him go, as long as they believe that Pryor is up to a starting role and they get a really good deal out of it. I would prefer if he stayed though, imo he is the best NT in the league and by a long way too as he is a 3 down guy.

Whats you thoughts and please explain to me about the CBA if its part of this.

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HarkDawg

we have him by the balls....... there is nothing he can do.





No Cap year will be good for us because there is no pressing need to extend him to a long term deal just yet...... Thnx to the TAG....... he cannot do anything drastic. I do not see him sitting out...... PATS use the TAG in their favor and delay the long term signing..... Do not expect a contract extension anytime soon.

DonBlackmon55

1) Wilfork is most likely gone. He won't get franchised(Pats don't do this typically)
2) No team is stupid enough to give a #1 and #2 for a NT, and I don't care if player is a perennial pro-bowler and 1st ballot HOF....NFL is a business and the draft picks are very valuable commodities
3) Pryor is a backup at best, and Brace looks to be another Marquise Hill in the making if he could not beat our Pryor last year

robertweathers

I believe that they have exchanged numbers. Either side just doesn't like what they are hearing.


I don't see this situation unfolding any differently than Samuel, Branch, etc. Take that for what it's worth. Call is playing it safe. Call it negotiating. Call it keeping their options open. Call it not thinking the player is worth the money they want.


Don't know. I tend to doubt it.


Kraft even said so.


Because they can.

We don't know what Vince wants.

Absolutely.


Don't know about Pryor. Agreed on Brace.

Best 3/4 NT- yes. Best DT- No.

My gut tells me that they Pats don't want to play big money for a run-stuffer and will let him walk/trade him.

CBA or capless year will theoretically impact market demand for the player. In 2011 and a lockout, teams may need to be cash conservative.

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fair catch fryar

Asante Samuel and Adam Vinatieri say hello.

HarkDawg

why do you say he is gone?



PATS will use this situation to their advantage.



We will TAG him......

If a contract does not happen this yr. TAG him again and trade him....



it is all politics. TAG guarantees him best (3) money average for position..... we will use the franchise tag to our advantage.

Lucky for us the tag on NT is small

ctpatsfan77

They're not going to just let him walk; Matt Cassel can attest to that.

We don't know how far apart they are; I also don't know that they could have devised an acceptable extension during the 2009 season because of the special salary cap rules in place to prevent teams from skirting the salary cap by shifting money into the uncapped years.

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JMarr

The unbelievable reach for Brace in the draft last year makes at least some sense now. Pats knew the chances were fairly slim that they could work out a long-term deal with Vince.

Patsfanin Philly

As does Matt Cassel..AV got tagged twice IIRC....

DonBlackmon55

"Typically".........did we have backup options to AV or AS ?

In case of Vince there's plenty of 'bodies" albeit not as talented. There's a reason Pryor played last year(not a benchwarming rook), and there's a reason they drafted Brace in Rd 2 last year...when in fact they had Vince, Sey, Ty, Jarvis, M Wright for DL depth.