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Old 02-08-2010, 09:42 AM   #31
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He's a very good wide receiver, and give us a very talented top 2 with Moss. I'd love for it to happen, and I don't see us getting anything better to help us out over the next couple of years with a 2nd.
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The expression actually is Fortune favors the foolish, or Fortune favors fools.

It is a Chinese probverb:
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But use the right expression and I agree:

Fortune favors the foolish.

This would be a foolish move.
you need to stay away from the fortune cookies.
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We have gaping holes at OL, LB, have many of our own FA. Why would BB spend a 2Rd pick on 30yr old WR who missed 4 games in '07 and '08. This would be CAP lunacy. For a change use the Draft to build the team up. Stop chasing after these FA.

BTW, we had a chance to draft Bolding coming out of FSU, but passed him up for ? wanna guess ?...........all world WR Bethel Johnson.
First, Boldin won't be 30 until midseason in 2010. Also, when did 30 become old for a WR? Moss was 32 this year and still was a top WR.

Second, why would the Pats give up using draft picks to acquire veteran talent. Using draft picks for veterans got the Pats Corey Dillon, Ted Washington, Randy Moss, and Wes Welker. Boy the Pats should have saved their draft picks rather than get those guys.

Third, how would it be cap lunacy? We don't know what Boldin would settle for. We know what he wanted two years ago.

Fourth, just because the Pats passed on Boldin in the draft (just like every team), doesn't mean their opinion has changed on him. That would be like saying that if the Pats offered up Brady in a trade for Boldin to Arizona that they would decline the trade because they passed on Brady in the draft six time in 2000.

Fifth, Boldin's durability is a concern, but it also lowers Boldins value in a trade and him getting a new deal. I think Boldin will be traded for less than a second and I think he will be forced to settle for far less than he wanted two years ago.
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Yes but how do you know that's what Boldin wants? Hasn't he indicated that he wants to be paid #1 WR money? Correct me if I'm wrong but that year he was unhappy and whining, did that not happen during a SUPER BOWL RUN?

These aren't even his biggest issues, the guy misses alot of games. We are taking a bigtime risk if you sacrifice a 2nd rounder and give him the money he's looking for.
I think anybody who plays a game for a living has a competitive nature.

He may want to get paid, however to play for a winner he might play for a little less
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We have gaping holes at OL, LB, have many of our own FA. Why would BB spend a 2Rd pick on 30yr old WR who missed 4 games in '07 and '08. This would be CAP lunacy. For a change use the Draft to build the team up. Stop chasing after these FA.

BTW, we had a chance to draft Bolding coming out of FSU, but passed him up for ? wanna guess ?...........all world WR Bethel Johnson.
1.) "We" have a gaping hole at WR

2.) 30 is not too old for a receiver

3.) There is no CAP for there to be any CAP lunacy.

4.) Using draft picks to get excellent players is precisely how you build a team up.

5.) A traded player is not a free agent


So, other than all of that...


Boldin has been a better NFL receiver than Bethel Johnson. Good call, there.
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They have to give up a #2 pick (worth gold by the way) AND PAY HUGE HUGE Salary??

NO!!

If anything wait til he gets cut cause he's so mad at his salary.

I don't really like the idea of paying a new guy so much coin whereas we are about to say goodbye to valient soldier Wilfork. Maybe Boldin will attitude it up here or something. Maybe he can't learn the playbook? Although that's kind of unlikely, but still.

Why did we get rid of Gaffney again?
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3.) There is no CAP for there to be any CAP lunacy.
As has been pointed out in numerous sources, though, that doesn't mean the Pats can spend as much as they want with impunity.
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As has been pointed out in numerous sources, though, that doesn't mean the Pats can spend as much as they want with impunity.
No

But they can afford to pay him big for a year and give him a decent salary for a few more
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But they can afford to pay him big for a year and give him a decent salary for a few more
There's a rule that you cant have more than a certain percent droppage in salary from one year to the next. If he's still looking for #1 WR or anything like it, it's a major risk for us, not knowing what the constraints, if any, will be beyond this year.
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There's a rule that you cant have more than a certain percent droppage in salary from one year to the next. If he's still looking for #1 WR or anything like it, it's a major risk for us, not knowing what the constraints, if any, will be beyond this year.
It's 50% I believe

that means if we're willing to pay him 7 million a year we can pay him 14 next season

Hardly an amount of money worth turning your nose up at
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