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Re: NFLPA chief: 2011 lockout chances "14" on a scale of 1-10
An even freakier part of that article is the quote from the players side saying it would be "impossible" to bring a salary cap back into a new CBA if next year is uncapped.
An NFL w/out a cap, not just next year but many years after...doesn't sound good.
Re: NFLPA chief: 2011 lockout chances "14" on a scale of 1-10
This is serious stuff.. I cant believe the owners want to kill this game... But that is the road they are taking... I know its early yet , and people can joke all you want.. Im not sure so many people will be so quick to come back to the best game going right now.. Football is more huge now than it was 20 plus years ago when they almost kill the sport... I guess Kraft will be fine with the Patriot place , but he will have empty stadium and that ticket waiting list will be quickly whitlle down.. a lock out is the death nail, no football in 2011 is bad for everyone involved..
Now will it get to it, I hope not , alot of posturing is going on.. Its gloom now, but the 11th hour is not here yet , and hopefullly cooler heads will pervail... But 2011 and no football is bad, and hope it does not get to it...
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Re: NFLPA chief: 2011 lockout chances "14" on a scale of 1-10
If they (collectively) are dumb enough to lock out, then that's their problem. I'm not going to get worked up over a potential year without football: in all likelihood, I'll probably just care that much less about the game when it does come back.
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Re: NFLPA chief: 2011 lockout chances "14" on a scale of 1-10
It's not the owners who want to "kill the game." It's the players who do because they believe that they should be getting 90% of the money and the owners should only be getting 10%. What these players fail to realize is how much debt some of these owners have incurred to pamper their sorry arses.
Every single one of them should watch the movie "MAJOR LEAGUE" and see what life COULD be like. With sub-standard equipment and stuff..
Personally, the players are taking too much as it is.
Also, the idea that you can't go back to the salary cap after it's gone is BS. They sure can. Just the same way they did when it was introduced.
I'll be honest, if the players insist on keeping the money breakdown the same, then the owners should insist that the medical expenses be shared by the players. That, at the end of the year, the total medical expenses paid out gets tallied and then broken down across each team and that money come out of the player's week 17 paycheck.
I would also charge the players for the security and parking.
The Players have gotten ridiculous in their demands and they need to know that without the owners, there are no stadiums for them to play in. There are not multi-year contracts with the TV stations that pour in more than 50% of the revenue for the league.
Now, I am not saying that the owners are blameless here. They aren't as they gave too much to Upshaw the last time around without the players giving up anything. Well, now it's time to pay the piper. Nothing is free. And that's something the players and owners both need to realize.
Re: NFLPA chief: 2011 lockout chances "14" on a scale of 1-10
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Originally Posted by DaBruinz
It's not the owners who want to "kill the game." It's the players who do because they believe that they should be getting 90% of the money and the owners should only be getting 10%. What these players fail to realize is how much debt some of these owners have incurred to pamper their sorry arses.
Every single one of them should watch the movie "MAJOR LEAGUE" and see what life COULD be like. With sub-standard equipment and stuff..
Personally, the players are taking too much as it is.
Also, the idea that you can't go back to the salary cap after it's gone is BS. They sure can. Just the same way they did when it was introduced.
I'll be honest, if the players insist on keeping the money breakdown the same, then the owners should insist that the medical expenses be shared by the players. That, at the end of the year, the total medical expenses paid out gets tallied and then broken down across each team and that money come out of the player's week 17 paycheck.
I would also charge the players for the security and parking.
The Players have gotten ridiculous in their demands and they need to know that without the owners, there are no stadiums for them to play in. There are not multi-year contracts with the TV stations that pour in more than 50% of the revenue for the league.
Now, I am not saying that the owners are blameless here. They aren't as they gave too much to Upshaw the last time around without the players giving up anything. Well, now it's time to pay the piper. Nothing is free. And that's something the players and owners both need to realize.
I agree about the pampered players part, but part of me is on the side of them , but they need a kick in the ass too... But in this economy I believe fans should strike if the players are locked out...
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Re: NFLPA chief: 2011 lockout chances "14" on a scale of 1-10
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This is serious stuff.. I cant believe the owners want to kill this game... But that is the road they are taking... I know its early yet , and people can joke all you want.. Im not sure so many people will be so quick to come back to the best game going right now.. Football is more huge now than it was 20 plus years ago when they almost kill the sport... I guess Kraft will be fine with the Patriot place , but he will have empty stadium and that ticket waiting list will be quickly whitlle down.. a lock out is the death nail, no football in 2011 is bad for everyone involved..
Now will it get to it, I hope not , alot of posturing is going on.. Its gloom now, but the 11th hour is not here yet , and hopefullly cooler heads will pervail... But 2011 and no football is bad, and hope it does not get to it...
Why are you so quick to blame the owners? Most players are overpaid as it is already. Both sides will have to give a little, but I don't care for the crap the new player union head is saying. A strike or a lockout just hurts everyone.
Re: NFLPA chief: 2011 lockout chances "14" on a scale of 1-10
I have an out of the box, off the wall idea that could explain why a lockout might be the owners intent..
1) The owners know everyone loses in a lockout. They lose. They players lose. The fans lose. But the players lose the most.
2) One of the issues that the owners have is the skyrocketing expenses. Not just the players salaries, but other things as well.
3) The owners, while they don't make money, also don't have to pay out hundred of thousands of dollars in utilities, food, beverages, etc...
When things do get rolling again, the same money won't be available, hence any salary cap that goes into place with be significantly less than the one that is there now.. Which is the owners intent.. To force the players to take less of the overall pot..
Now, another thing they could do is agree to a 1 year extension based on the 2009 levels. So the cap would be stagnant, but that probably wouldn't do much..