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Old 03-05-2006, 08:16 PM   #1
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ESPN.com reports NFLPA executive director Gene Upshaw claims the NFL offered the players a percentage of revenues that was less than they received over the past 12 years. Upshaw said, "After suggesting we extend the waiver deadline from six o'clock to ten this evening, they gave us a new proposal which was worse than their prior offer. Quite naturally, we rejected that proposal and saw no need to continue meeting. Under our previous cap agreement, we got just less than 60 percent of all of the revenues. The NFL now wants us to cut that percentage to less than 57 percent. Given the enormous revenue growth the NFL is experiencing, I am not about to give back gains which we have made in the past." Upshaw continues to blame high revenue clubs and the revenue sharing issue as the main reason negotiations kept breaking down.
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Old 03-05-2006, 08:22 PM   #2
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Upchuck and his hack ***** Keisser have some serious stones.
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The percentage may very well be lower if they're changing the formula of what counts. Gene, baby, would you prefer 60% of $1M or 50% of $2M ?
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Hey Gene Upshaw...SHUT UP. I am so sick of this guy...he sells out the players in favor of the agents that must be lining his pockets.
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The percentage may very well be lower if they're changing the formula of what counts. Gene, baby, would you prefer 60% of $1M or 50% of $2M ?
* Do you actually know what the amounts were?
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* Do you actually know what the amounts were?
You may not know what the actual amounts were, but these are business people. They aren't going to take the offer of total proceeds down from what they give to the players now. Otherwise, NO ONE would be siding with the owners.
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* Do you actually know what the amounts were?
According to Upchuck, the offer was 56.5% going foreward, but he says they had 59% already. The league says that there was gonna be $1.5 billion! of new money for the players over the 6 years going foreward, with $500mm payable in '06.
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Some more detail and the other side from the AP via CBS Sportsline:

"But Harold Henderson, the NFL's executive vice president for labor relations, said the union rejected a proposal that would have added $577 million for players in 2006 compared to 2005 and $1.5 billion in the six years of the extension. "It's an unfortunate situation for the players, the fans and the league," Henderson said.

The cuts started almost immediately.

One reason these talks were more difficult is that the players asked for a change in the system.

Until now, they received their money primarily from television and ticket revenues. This time, they requested their share from all team revenues, including outside money generated by everything from parking fees to stadium naming rights.

That led to difficult negotiations, in part, because the teams themselves are having their own dispute over that money because of the disparity in outside income made by low-revenue teams like Buffalo and Indianapolis and high-revenue teams like Dallas, Washington, New England and Philadelphia. Union leaders had suggested that it would be hard to reach agreement on a labor contract until the owners settled their own differences.

Upshaw said he still thinks revenue sharing is the key, although Henderson said it was never discussed. Upshaw also said the players would do as well or better sticking with the current agreement.

"Under our previous cap agreement, we got just less than 60 percent of all of the revenues. The NFL now wants us to cut that percentage to less than 57 percent. Given the enormous revenue growth the NFL is experiencing, I am not about to give back gains which we have made in the past. It is clear to me that we will do much better under our current CBA in 2006 and particularly in 2007, the uncapped year," Upshaw said."

I'm beginning to think Gene is as dense as the majority of players he supposedly represents. This year alone his players lose $320-480M dollars in potential income, not to mention some lose their jobs or will play for a whole lot less than they were in line to make had teams not been forced to cut them just to get under the cap. Next year FA opportunities will be cut in half and in anticipation of a lockout many teams will forego FA all together as they prepare to hunker down for a work stoppage. An entire draft class in 2008 will be on their own. By the time they get it figured out again in 2009 Ty Laws family could be starving.

Eisen is on live on NFL All Access and he says there is nothing new to report. Schefter says again these guys can't even agree as to what they disagree about. Sounds like we have shifted from the beginning of the end to the end.
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Upshaw is being disingenuous - either that or he'd score less than Vince Young on the Wonderlic.

The NFL is indeed offering a smaller percentage than previous CBA's - of a much bigger pie now that they are considering Total Football Revenue.

If that's the best Upshaw can do to spin public opinion for the players then he needs to step down and let someone else do his job.
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