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Do you think Adam would be able to get all these endorsement deals elsewhere? I don't think so.
New (perish the thought) York?
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Dallas???? I really do hope they keep him...having a solid kicker CLUTCH..is key in close games..UNLESS they really want a rook...OR another kicker and wait to get a rook...LOL...really keep AdamV!!!
One more thing. Adam is a key part of the emotional core of the Patriots. He's one of the good guys. His kicks have give us all a great deal of pleasure in the last few years. Unless we absolutely cannot afford him, I want him back.
One more thing. Adam is a key part of the emotional core of the Patriots. He's one of the good guys. His kicks have give us all a great deal of pleasure in the last few years. Unless we absolutely cannot afford him, I want him back.
He's already the highest paid kicker in the league. He is also one of the best kickers in the league, but is he THE best? It's a debatable question. So, if he is such a "good guy" as you say, let him sign a reasonable contract rather than looking for a significant raise over his already highest salary. If he is unwilling to do that, sign another good kicker.
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One more thing. Adam is a key part of the emotional core of the Patriots. He's one of the good guys. His kicks have give us all a great deal of pleasure in the last few years. Unless we absolutely cannot afford him, I want him back.
Well said. One more thing, his initials are the same as mine. Go Adam. I mean, stay, Adam.
He's already the highest paid kicker in the league. He is also one of the best kickers in the league, but is he THE best? It's a debatable question. So, if he is such a "good guy" as you say, let him sign a reasonable contract rather than looking for a significant raise over his already highest salary. If he is unwilling to do that, sign another good kicker.
Again folks there is not another good kicker available. Adam's replacement needs to be a proven cold weather kicker who can also handle kickoffs. Green Bay's Longwell might fit the bill but they are rumored to be franchising him and if not HE wants to be highest paid and is very vocal about how a cushy warm weather or indoor job would prolong his career. The other veterans on the FA list are his age or a lot older, kick in temperate climates or indoors, or have had serious injuries and missed seasons, or choked in the clutch, etc. And most of them would cost close to $2M anyway.
Picture AV filling Vanderjerk's void in Indy for a while and get back to me. Don't think they wouldn't jump at the chance since they were paying Vanderjerk just to kick FG's and carry another guy to handle kickoffs.
Nedney's numbers are equal or better then AV's in terms of percentages when looking at under 50 yds. Nedney,(who has never missed inside 30yds and is 102 for 110 under 40yds), hits for 81%, AV for 74% from 49yds or closer. These are regular season stats only and, yes, AV has intangibles that come from his execution under pressure.
Since kicking FG's of longer than 50yds is falling out of vogue - AV only tried 2 this year and missed them both - Nedney's accuracy is attractive.
But, and this is a big but, how much would we save in cash and how would that be offest by losing AV's intangibles?
My guess is Nedney signs for about $1.3 mil with a small bonus, is that $1.2 to $2million/yr we save enough to let AV go? Considering all the young players coming up for new contracts that money could go a long way.
but he's no Adam Vinateri
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Again folks there is not another good kicker available. Adam's replacement needs to be a proven cold weather kicker who can also handle kickoffs. Green Bay's Longwell might fit the bill but they are rumored to be franchising him and if not HE wants to be highest paid and is very vocal about how a cushy warm weather or indoor job would prolong his career. The other veterans on the FA list are his age or a lot older, kick in temperate climates or indoors, or have had serious injuries and missed seasons, or choked in the clutch, etc. And most of them would cost close to $2M anyway.
Picture AV filling Vanderjerk's void in Indy for a while and get back to me. Don't think they wouldn't jump at the chance since they were paying Vanderjerk just to kick FG's and carry another guy to handle kickoffs.
Good analysis. My position was based on principle, but I didn't go through and look at who is available. If you say there are no other good kickers available I'll take your word for it. Having said that, I still think there is a limit to how much you pay for a kicker.
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I have no idea if the Patriots will franchise AV or what thier ceiling is for an offer to him on a deal. But, unless a team feels a PK is all they need for a legitimate SB bid, why would any team offer him any more than what the Pats have paid him the last couple of years? Yes, indeed he's made some big, high pressure FG's for the Patriots. And I hope he's back. But unless you feel all your team needs is a PK who'll make the big kick in a big game, 1st you'd have to feel you have the team to get in that position. It's not like he's made every FG he's attempted and his KO's go out of the EZ 95% of the time. The same question being mulled here, is a PK worth that much money when you can spend it on someone who plays every O or D down, would have to be decided by other teams as well. Maybe he's already hit the ceiling for a PK.
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