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Old 01-02-2010, 11:53 AM   #31
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He was using examples and saying this team still has it's share of championship caliber players.

Watching this team, it is ludicrous to suggest that they are at best a 10-5 team. It's not a bad season but we could have performed better.
Woulda...Coulda...Shoulda...

Meaningless.

They're a 10--5 team because they played like a 10--5 team.

We can argue all we want that they "could be" 12--3 because of a couple of plays in a couple of games; but, we can also argue that they "could be" 8--7 if McKelvin doesn't try to return that kick and Clayton doesn't drop that pass on the numbers.

10--5. That's what they are; that's how they've played.

Doesn't mean I don't think they can still win the SB. But they'll win it as a (hopefully) 11--5 team. I'll take it, BTW.
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Old 01-02-2010, 01:01 PM   #32
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Is it possible to be known as just a Pats fan?

Someday I'll reach old crusty status but that sounds almost like a description for an STD.

Do not want
Of course...I posted that mumbo-jumbo to add some levity to the post. My 2 sons are teenagers and are life long Pats fans, but all they know is the good times...which is awesome.
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PFnV, no kidding, you could respond to every post on this board with:
You're not a GM.
You're not a NFL coach/Scout.
You're still better off than a Detriot fan.
But it's not much of a response. Empty. A message board poster isn't a NFL coach? What a surprise. But hats off to you for keeping those in your back pocket . As you say, its a free country.
Yeah quite the paradox. We'll all keep doing it anyway, because we have to talk about something. The fact that we're here speaks to needing something Pats-related between the actual games... and don't even TALK to me about the off-seasons.
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and they have Sherm Lewis incurring delay of game penalties because when he hears on the head set "third and eleven" he feels compelled to answer "take me to heaven." Once when Jason Campbell was calling signals and got to BLUE, SEVENTEEN...and Sherm answered "BINGO!"
Are you serious about this? Do you have like a link or something? (And I want to assure you it's not cuz I don't believe you but because I want to hear more of these stories so I can shake a ball loose laughing)
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LOL no no no, I am joking but it's a lot like that.

On some downs, it's Sherm Lewis, on other downs guys up in the box call a variety of plays from which Lewis can pick some, on some downs Jim Zorn is allowed to call the play, then there's some sort of thing where they have to call the play, send it up to the owner's booth, get it approved, and get it on the field... it's utter freaking madness.

I'm not sure I've got this completely right, but let's put it this way, you know that diamond-based decision box on a flow chart? There are 3 or 4 of those between the "input" box that says 3rd and 7 and the "output" box that says the play they are calling.

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Great post, PFnV. It's been a fun season, however long it lasts in the end.

All successful teams attract bandwagon fans. Of course, a large percentage of those will disappear when we start having losing seasons, which is fine by me. As you said in following posts, people should a) remember that the Pats are privy to a huge amount of information we will never see and b) there was a time when it was downright embarrassing to be a Pats fan...
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LOL no no no, I am joking but it's a lot like that.

On some downs, it's Sherm Lewis, on other downs guys up in the box call a variety of plays from which Lewis can pick some, on some downs Jim Zorn is allowed to call the play, then there's some sort of thing where they have to call the play, send it up to the owner's booth, get it approved, and get it on the field... it's utter freaking madness.

I'm not sure I've got this completely right, but let's put it this way, you know that diamond-based decision box on a flow chart? There are 3 or 4 of those between the "input" box that says 3rd and 7 and the "output" box that says the play they are calling.

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Washington's O line is so miserable, that any play calling is going to be difficult at best. I do not envy any of the Washington offensive coaches.

Our OC has had a terrible season, probably in part because the O Line was banged up a lot this season, but mostly due to inexperience.
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