Kirwan says Bengals want #3 seed more than the Patriots do - Page 5 - New England Patriots Forums

12-31-2009, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ray mercer

The Chargers beat the piss out of you last year. Rivers is playing better than Brady, we have better running game and a better secondary and I believe a superior passing game. This not to mention you're coming to SD where the crowd will be pumped. You barely beat us in 2007 with a busted up team. I give you guys a 30% chance at best. There's a reason why you're begging for the 4 seed.

How do you figure?

The Chargers are ranked 29th in the NFL in rushing yards.

The Pats are ranked 11th.

And I wouldn't be talking so much about last year's game unless you want us to mention the 3 Patriot victories over SD that preceeded it.

bostonia3333 · 12-31-2009, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ray mercer

From the posting on this site I get the impression that Patriot fans are afraid of the Chargers this year. There are a lot of posters begging to get the 4 seed. I guess this is understandable after the beating that SD layed out out last year in San Diego. Personally I see the Patriots as having little chance against SD if they meet in the divisonal game.

Two words:

Matt Cassel

***Jangles*** · 12-31-2009, 04:58 PM

I haven't watched a lot of the SD games

but I want no part of them. I think they're the team to beat this year.

I guess we'll see in a few weeks though

***ray mercer*** · 12-31-2009, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JMarr

Hahahahaha.....you're too cute, little Ray. SD crowd "pumped?" LMFAO!!!!! You mean the same San Diego that has to black out playoff games because so many of their "pumped" fans fill the stadium?

And you did notice who was playing quarterback for the Pats last year didn't you? Even though it was Matty "I haven't played a down of football since high school" Cassell, no excuses, you did beat us fair and square. See that's the problem--you win one game against us and your players and fans start saying things like "we have your number." You have some success and you start saying "this is the year!" Only problem is, it always ends the same way for you.

The SD crowd will be ready, you better believe it. Last year's game was an execution. Brady will not be enough to overcome a balanced football team. Relying on two receivers to win the football game will not be enough.

***Deus Irae*** · 12-31-2009, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by pao

I see the Patriots side of it...and I'd love to see it....I think. Be careful what you wish for and all that. But on paper, as a fan, I'd rather the Chargers play Cinci in the divisional round rather than the Pats. The game in SD earlier this year was not as close as the score. The Chargers were up by 11 with the ball late in the 3rd qtr or early in the fourth when the Bengals got a fluke interception (ball went through Gates' hands) that allowed them to get back in the game. Don't think a rematch will be much different but, of course, one never knows.

Oh, I think that both San Diego and New England would prefer that the Bengals win the #3 seed, if it was looked at purely from a "best matchup scenario for the playoffs" angle. The difference is in the "why" aspect of it. For S.D., they'd get a less physical, and less talented, team in round 2 AND only have to face 1 of their 2 recent "fellow elites". For N.E., it's more a matter of the timing and location of the games.

***ray mercer*** · 12-31-2009, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bostonia3333

Two words:

Matt Cassel

One player will not change an execution into a victory. Sorry but you're overestimating Brady's abilities. I don't think we have your number I just believe we have a better overall football team.

***Deus Irae*** · 12-31-2009, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ray mercer

The Chargers beat the piss out of you last year. Rivers is playing better than Brady, we have better running game and a better secondary and I believe a superior passing game. This not to mention you're coming to SD where the crowd will be pumped. You barely beat us in 2007 with a busted up team. I give you guys a 30% chance at best. There's a reason why you're begging for the 4 seed.

Another troll from San Diego....

patological · 12-31-2009, 05:04 PM

It's not about 3 or 4 but which would you rather see?

***ray mercer*** · 12-31-2009, 05:07 PM

No trolling here, just facts. We have a better football team than you as evidenced by our records and the teams we have beaten. I watched the Saints game this year and it was just pitiful. Do you guys really believe you have the better football team? What areas do you believe you are stronger in? Your defence is nothing compared to the defence that beat Indy in 2004.

***Jangles*** · 12-31-2009, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ray mercer

One player will not change an execution into a victory. Sorry but you're overestimating Brady's abilities. I don't think we have your number I just believe we have a better overall football team.

Disagree on the first count

Maybe at another position you would have a point but nobody has more impact on the game than the QB. What Brady brings to the table is far superior than what Cassel could do. I'm not saying the score would be reversed but Brady on the field changes the way the whole game is played.

From how the Chargers played defense to how productive our offense was. It all would have been different had #12 been on the field.

I do think the Chargers are the better football team though. I think the Pats have plenty of potential and if they came out firing on all cylinders for 4 quarters they are as good as anybody. It just hasn't happened this season though, with the exception of the Jags game