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Old 01-01-2010, 05:52 AM   #101
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I haven't watched a lot of the SD games

but I want no part of them. I think they're the team to beat this year.

I guess we'll see in a few weeks though
I agree. Not sure why so many fellow Pats fans are being so ****y about the Chargers. Even with the Jax game in hand, the Patriots remain not nearly as good, nor as hot, as the Chargers right now. Obviously I hope I'm wrong, but let's get real.

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Old 01-01-2010, 07:19 AM   #102
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I agree. Not sure why so many fellow Pats fans are being so ****y about the Chargers. Even with the Jax game in hand, the Patriots remain not nearly as good, nor as hot, as the Chargers right now. Obviously I hope I'm wrong, but let's get real.
It is the everyone else but the Pats sucks mentality that sometimes takes hold here. If the roles were reversed and the Pats were on the same 10 game win streak the Chargers are on we'd be already talking about the Super Bowl parade.

The Chargers aren't unbeatable - no one is this year. They are playing the best in the AFC and would be a clear favorite if there is a Pats/SD playoff game in a couple weeks.

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Rivers is a top 10 quarterback who should be able to remain upright if the Patriots don't blitz, so he'll be able to work on a Patriots secondary that's not as good as the numbers indicate (although Springs getting into the lineup should help the situation from a Patriots perspective).
Rivers has been top 5 this year. And San Diego has a very good team. The only real downside for San Diego that I see is their playoff history.

The Patriots have had some pretty mediocre performances this year. Fortunately, they seem to be gelling more now - but it's tough to really tell since they haven't faced top competition recently.

I think a lot will depend on how Tom Brady plays. Although it's a team game, Tom Brady could have (and should have) been the difference in 3 of their losses this year - if he just did what he seemed to always do in previous years. But he didn't. If Tom Brady can play at a high level, then Patriot fans have every reason to be optimistic about this game.
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Are you sure about that Pao? Too lazy to look it up, but I'm pretty sure that San Diego had at least one playoff game blacked out a couple of years ago. If not, it was only lifted only at the last minute, and an embarrassment to the franchise nonetheless.

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Nope, never happened . Never will.
Actually, JMarr hit the nail on the head with the alternative thought. The only reason the game wasn't blacked out was because the NFL gave the Chargers a time extension:

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Pat was just talking about this on Sirius Radio and I think he may have a point here.

He said the Bengals are fully confident that if they win thier first game as the#3 seed they can surely go to San Diego and win since they came very close to doing just that a few weeks ago.

He said the Patriots feel the exact same way about the #4 seed as being confident that they can go to Indy and win since they came beyond close to doing that a month ago as well.

Pat expects the Pats to lay off just about all thier starters this upcoming game and pretty much tank the Houston game because they really want the #4 and Cincy will do just the opposite and play all thier starters all game and try as hard as they can to gather up the #3 if NE does lose.

Makes sense...
You do realize that this is what he thinks they think and is not at all based in him being told anything of the sort from anyone in either organization right?
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I have a funny feeling in my bones that the Bengals will be playing in the AFC Title game.
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You do realize that this is what he thinks they think and is not at all based in him being told anything of the sort from anyone in either organization right?
Yeah. He's just saying what he thinks and reporting maybe a little clubhouse gossip; not what the Coach or anyone has decided. The fact that it arguably makes sense makes it easy to jump to the conclusion.

Same thing with the thread that claimed that Reiss said that Brady said that he was going to play the full game Sunday. When you go to the source, Brady says, as he always does, that he wants to play the full game and expects to play the full game but that Belichick makes these decisions and he hadn't made it, at least for public dissemination.
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I may be in the minority but even today I still believe BB tanked the last regualr season game in 2005 vs. Miami with Cassel at QB so that they could play Jax IIRC
You're right. Cassel played the majority of that game. Pats still almost won.

And IIRC if they would have won that game they would have been #3 seed and played the Steelers instead of the Jaguars in the first round. Of course Pittsburgh went on to win the Super Bowl that year while the Pats lost in Denver.

Oh what could have been.
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This all sounds good right up to the point where the Patriots would have to go to Cincy for an AFC matchup when they could have been the home team. Kirwan is a dummy if he thinks players think like this. If I had to guess and NE was really feeling confident, they would play anyone, anywhere in their quest to get to the Super Bowl. Would they like a chance at Indy again? Absolutely. But it's best to prepare for your next opponent, regardless who it is, rather than plan for the next game before you win the one you're supposed to.
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This all sounds good right up to the point where the Patriots would have to go to Cincy for an AFC matchup when they could have been the home team. Kirwan is a dummy if he thinks players think like this. If I had to guess and NE was really feeling confident, they would play anyone, anywhere in their quest to get to the Super Bowl. Would they like a chance at Indy again? Absolutely. But it's best to prepare for your next opponent, regardless who it is, rather than plan for the next game before you win the one you're supposed to.
Like I said earlier I don't think it's a lack of confidence so much as it is a desire to have another shot at Indy
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