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Old 02-03-2006, 05:48 PM   #21
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I'm not certain about rooks - but for vets, 5 games = 1 credited season
http://www.nfl.com/freeagency/qa

Q -- What constitutes an "accrued season?"

A -- Six or more regular-season games on a club's active/inactive, reserved-injured or "physically unable to perform" lists.
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Old 02-04-2006, 09:54 AM   #22
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"...Guss Scott would get the first-year tenders of $241,720."

We lost Guss to I/R against San Diego in week four, was this insufficient time for him to accrue a year?
Upon further review, Guss Scott played in 5 games last year which was enough time to obtain a credited season.

I will be correcting that portion.
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Default Credited Seasons Explained

Quoting Section 7 of Article 38 of the CBA, " For purposes of calculating Credited Seasons under this Article only, a player shall earn one Credited Season for each season during which he was on, or should have been on, full pay status for a total of three or more regular season games, but which, irrespective of the player's pay status, shall not include games for which this player was on: (i) the Exempt Commissioner Permission List; (ii) the Reserve PUP List as a result of a non-football injury; (iii) a Club's Practice or Developmental Squad; or (iv) a Club's Injured Reserve List."
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Old 02-04-2006, 09:56 AM   #24
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Exclusive-rights free agents — The Patriots have 5 ERFAs, and I am projecting that they will give tenders to all of them. The following 3 ERFAs would get third-year tenders of $391,720: Randall Gay, Gene Mruczkowski, and Billy Yates. Guss Scott will get the second-year tender of $316,720. Brandon "Bam" Childress will get the first-year tenders of $241,720. The gross cap hit of the Patriots’ 5 ERFA tenders would be $1,733,600 but the net cap cost (558,600) would be lower due to the Rule of 51 (see below).
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Miguel, will the Pats save any money by simply releasing Brandon Gorin, instead of extending him? I really, really do not want him on the 53 next season. What about releasing Izzo, TBC, DDavis, Chatham, Klecko and Chad Brown? These guys basically just play on a Special Teams unit that is not very special at all.
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Aye, Aye Captain. We were extremely fortunate some long punt
returns were called back this year. Had to be 3 or 4? I don't see
great special teams given our reputation. I can live with TBC. He
plays a little. I'd keep Izzo or Chatham. Not both. D.Davis. Come on.
Can't we find some young lb's capable of more than what we're
getting out of those vets?
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Miguel, will the Pats save any money by simply releasing Brandon Gorin, instead of extending him? I really, really do not want him on the 53 next season. What about releasing Izzo, TBC, DDavis, Chatham, Klecko and Chad Brown? These guys basically just play on a Special Teams unit that is not very special at all.
You're talking my language -- time to ask some hard questions about special teams.
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Miguel, will the Pats save any money by simply releasing Brandon Gorin, instead of extending him? I really, really do not want him on the 53 next season. What about releasing Izzo, TBC, DDavis, Chatham, Klecko and Chad Brown? These guys basically just play on a Special Teams unit that is not very special at all.
I am going to list the gross cap savings. The Patriots would save cap money by releasing Gorin (550,000); Izzo (670,000); Klecko (460,000);TBC (460,000); and Chad Brown ($1,000,000). But since Don Davis and Matt Chatham are not signed for the 2006 season the Patriots can't save any cap space by releasing them

I should add releasing Chad Brown to the list of the most likely cap-related moves.
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Here are some possible ways that the Pats could free up cap space. Please note that I am NOT advocating that the Patriots do all of these salary-manuevers. Please note that I am presuming the CBA will be extended before March 3rd.

1.) Release Duane Starks - net cap savings of $3.4 million.
2.) Release Tyrone Poole - net cap savings of $1.8 million
3a.)Reduce McGinest's salary from $3.5 million to $1.5 million while converting his $3.5 million roster bonus into a NTLBE incentive - cap savings of $5.5 million
3b) Release McGinest - net cap savings of $6.8 million
4a.) Convert $3 million of Brady's $4 million salary into a signing bonus while extending his deal out to the 2012 season - cap savings of $3.87 million while pushing out $4.28 million of signing bonus proration to the 2011 and 2012 seasons.
4b.) Convert $3 million of Brady's $4 million salary into a signing bonus - cap savings of $2.4 million while adding $600,000 to his cap numbers for the 2007,2008,2009, and 2010 seasons.
5a.) Extend Brandon Gorin's contract by 2 years and convert his $700,000 LTBE incentive into a signing bonus - cap savings - $525,000
5b.) Convert Gorin's LTBE incentive into a NTLBE incentive - cap savings of $700,000
5c.) Release Brandon Gorin - net cap savings of $900,000
6a.) Extend Ross Hochstein's contract by 3 years and convert his $500,000 LTBE incentive into a signing bonus - cap savings - $375,000
6b.) Convert Hochstein's LTBE incentive into a NTLBE incentive - cap savings of $500,000
6c.) Release Ross Hochstein - net cap savings of $800,000
7.) Convert Matt Light's $2.6 million into a NTLBE incentive - cap savings of $2.6 million
8.) Convert $2.7 million of Colvin's $3.65 million salary into a signing bonus while extending his deal out to the 2012 season - cap savings of $2.025 million while pushing out $1,012,500 million of signing bonus proration to the 2009 and 2010 seasons.
9.) Convert Jarvis Green's $2.5 million roster bonus into a signing bonus - cap savings of $1,875,000
10.)Extend Richard Seymour's contract by 6 years lowering his cap number from $7.4 million to $6.4 million - cap savings of $1 million.
11.) Release Chad Brown - net cap savings of $771,720

As you can see from above, the Pats could free up more than $25 million in cap room if they chose to do so. The Pats could free up more than $17 million in cap room WITHOUT releasing a single player. The Patriots could free up more than $9 million without releasing a player and without pushing out signing bonus money.
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Releasing Gorin would save $900K?? Where do I sign?
Of course, I do not suggest that these releases occur now; let all of them compete in TC, then release them.
BB/SP need to roll up their sleeves and get to work this offseason, as opposed to 04-05. We need quality LBs and RBs, and possibly WRs and OLs and DBs.
Keep up the great work, Miguel; and everyone else, too. Sure beats reading the Glob (except for Reiss).
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