upstater1

What are you talking about?

Where did I say that?

I called Snyder a maniac in my original post.

In fact, I had us signing our own guys, not free agents from across the league, and since I don't know what these guys are worth, I suggested signing them to what they're worth, but paying lots up front to clear cap money in subsequent years. The money is the same, you just get a lot more flexibility.

Snyder is the EXACT opposite. He pays a bonus that becomes a huge weight AGAINST the cap in future years, as he always expects big cap raises. He gambles.

upstater1

I already answered this one. You do this to clear cap space in subsequent years.

mgteich

I agree that we won't hand out major extensions until we know that there will be football in 2011. I think that this will come before the season starts (and perhaps before the draft or even March 1st). I think that it is quite possible to have the new agreement start in 2011, some tranisition clauses, and basically use the current CBA's rules for 2010 including nocap and extended RFA's. My GUESS is that there will be an agreement in principle signed before the draft.

I strongly disagree with your assessment of Welker. You basically indicate that he is an undersized munchkin with only a couple of years left. You also talk as if Moss is on his last legs. My PERSONAL feeling is that if this is how the patriots feel, then Brady will NOT be re-signed. Brady is not a player who is ready to start again with new receivers and a new offense. I think that he would greatly prefer for he, Moss and Welker to be expected to continue through at least 2013.


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PatsFanSince74

Actually, he's always done what is fiscally responsible for Bob Kraft. This is why he is a billionaire and not a millionaire.

So far, the returns on the investments that Bob Kraft has to make in order to field a highly competitive Patriots Team have coincided with his family's financial objectives. While it is very likely that this will continue to be the case, there is no guarantee what would happen in a theoretically uncapped NFL.

The Krafts are very conservative in how they manage their investment, but it's almost impossible to tell from the publicly available numbers what is actually going on in the economics of any NFL franchise (much to the consternation of the NFLPA).

Estimated (only the Packers, as a publicly held entity, "report" numbers) "Profits" are almost meaningless, as we have no way of knowing how Costs are either calculated or allocated. On the numbers that are estimated by outfits like Forbes, the Patriots have the ninth highest Operating Margin in the league.

However, the two numbers that are probably most reliable, because they can be tied to external data, are "Debt" and "Revenue." The Patriots are the second highest Revenue generating team in the league (Redskins are first and Cowboys are third), which yields the high valuation that is informally assigned to the franchise. On the other hand, the Pats have the eighth highest level of Debt, because of their limited reliance on public funding. This gives the Patriots the ninth highest ratio of Debt to Revenue, not as bad as the New York teams or the Cowboys, but higher than 23 other Franchises and well above the low levels enjoyed by, for example, the Colts and Bills.

So, there's no way of knowing how far the Krafts would be willing or able to go in a theoretically completely uncapped world, but there can be no doubt that "the sky is not the limit."

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