Uncalled penalty near end of SB 36 - New England Patriots Forums

***Tunescribe*** · 01-29-2006, 05:36 PM

Just noticed during the NFL Channel Super Bowl recap of XXXVI: On Jermaine Wiggins' catch before the winning field goal, a Ram defender grabbed his facemask during the tackle (non-flagrant). Vinatieri's kick should've been 5 yards closer.

***pats1*** · 01-29-2006, 05:50 PM

I was watching 3 GTG I today, and I had a similar sight. Bobby Hamilton was held by a Ram lineman when he tried to chase Warner scrambling right, after McGinest's holding on the Tebucky Jones play. They would have been offsetting penalties, but since McGinest's occured before the turnover (both did, in fact), it would have been a replay, not 5 yards for the Rams (set up the Warner scramble).

Alk · 01-29-2006, 06:01 PM

If it's already this bad now, I shudder to think what it will be like further into the offseason.

***fgssand*** · 01-29-2006, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by huskeralk

If it's already this bad now, I shudder to think what it will be like further into the offseason.

LOL ....it is so hard without football isn't it. How many watched Superbowl Tailgate on ESPN today, come on raise your hands now. Only 6 months to training camp.......

***Tunescribe*** · 01-29-2006, 06:37 PM

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Only 6 months to training camp.......

Is that all? Heck, it's closer than I thought. The NFL Channel and Patriots On Demand sure will help fill the breach. And of course, this place.

drew4008 · 01-29-2006, 06:44 PM

I know I don't need to tell you this, and I'm sure it wasn't the point of your post but...

We won Super Bowl XXXVI. You don't need to worry about it.

Fanfrom1960 · 01-29-2006, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by pats1

I was watching 3 GTG I today, and I had a similar sight. Bobby Hamilton was held by a Ram lineman when he tried to chase Warner scrambling right, after McGinest's holding on the Tebucky Jones play. They would have been offsetting penalties, but since McGinest's occured before the turnover (both did, in fact), it would have been a replay, not 5 yards for the Rams (set up the Warner scramble).

How about the Patriots defender that whacked Warner on the helmet on the Ty Law Int. - TD? Also, some of the hits by Pats defensive players on Rams receivers probably caught the refs off guard as much as the Rams (like the NFL films guy says the Pats strategy was to come out hitting Rams offensive players, hard, if they had the ball, or if they didn't.). I love that call. Some of the hits might have gone uncalled in the let'em play philosophy. We got out of there with a W, and that's all that counts to me.

***Tunescribe*** · 01-29-2006, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Fanfrom1960

How about the Patriots defender that whacked Warner on the helmet on the Ty Law Int. - TD?

That was Vrabel, I think. Didn't seem penalty material to me.

drew4008 · 01-29-2006, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tunescribe

That was Vrabel, I think. Didn't seem penalty material to me.

Going by the rules... ANY contact to the QB's head is a 15 yard personal foul, "blow to the head".

***Tunescribe*** · 01-29-2006, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by drew4008

Going by the rules... ANY contact to the QB's head is a 15 yard personal foul, "blow to the head".

Yeah, but it wasn't a shot directly AT the head; seemed incidental to me in the act of tackling. There was a ton of "high" hits on Warner by Pats players in that game, including several facemask-to-helmet, etc.