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View Poll Results: What is the greatest team of the decade?
You can't compare an NFL team with an NBA team, in my opinion.
I think a more proper question would be, who impressed you more?
Agreed. What the Pats did in the NFL is far more impressive than what the Lakers or Spurs have done in the NBA.
Frankly, what the Celtics did in one season to turn around their entire franchise was the most impressive thing to go down in the NBA recently. The NBA is set up as a ridicolously stratified society - there are very clear haves and have nots, and there is no moving between the haves and have nots quickly - or at all. Once you have an elite player in the NBA, you're set for 10 years - if you don't have said player, you're screwed indefinitely, and stuck in a permanent Purgatory. You'll finish in the middle of the pack, draft in the middle of the first round (which isn't any better than late first round or early 2nd round), and continue to be a middle of the road team until the end of time.
So what Ainge pulls off truly impresses me.
Sorry for the sidetrack.
But, back to Lakers v Pats - it does turn into an NBA v NFL comparison. And given the nature of the NBA, and given the state of the league, its refereeing, its stardom, its salary cap, etc., its just not worthy of putting any team achievements in the NBA in the same category as those in the NFL. You are really comparing apples to oranges. And this is coming from someone who truly loves the game of basketball.
Last edited by BradyManny; 12-17-2009 at 12:24 PM..
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Exactly, This is why basketball frustrates the living **** out of me. It's so annoying when your team plays on the road, you just know if you're going against Kobe/Wade/Lebron in their house it's going to be a long night at the FT line.
A lot of people claim the Lakers got terrible calls in the playoffs for them. Add to the fact a ref from that time comes out and says the league is so fixed and you tell me why they're not questioned?
A lot of people claim the Lakers got terrible calls in the playoffs for them. Add to the fact a ref from that time comes out and says the league is so fixed and you tell me why they're not questioned?
You don't have to even be mildly paranoid to think the infamous Kings-Lakers series was influenced by the league. I'm not sure I believe everything Donaghy says, but I believe him that that series, and that game 6 was rigged. It was, without a doubt, the most blatantly biased officiating I've seen in the NBA.
You don't have to even be mildly paranoid to think the infamous Kings-Lakers series was influenced by the league. I'm not sure I believe everything Donaghy says, but I believe him that that series, and that game 6 was rigged. It was, without a doubt, the most blatantly biased officiating I've seen in the NBA.
That's a useless exercise though - it's one guy's subjective opinion on three other guy's subjective judgment calls. I have my own opinion, I watched the game, and like the rest of the world, thought it was pure garbage. Everyone is entitled to their $.02.
But, back to Lakers v Pats - it does turn into an NBA v NFL comparison. And given the nature of the NBA, and given the state of the league, its refereeing, its stardom, its salary cap, etc., its just not worthy of putting any team achievements in the NBA in the same category as those in the NFL. You are really comparing apples to oranges. And this is coming from someone who truly loves the game of basketball.
I actually think the differences make the comparison interesting--good fodder for debate. But in a sense I agree that the differences in the leagues favor the Pats. I noted in the other thread that the NFL being King in the U.S. is an element of the Pats' favor, in that their stature is just so enormous.
(Your take on the state of the NBA is interesting, btw--just don't want to go too far down that road on a Pats' board.)
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It's hard to compare regular seasons between the two sports. The NFL regular season means more because the limited number of games that teams have. Meanwhile in the NBA, you have 82 games. The way NBA teams have to travel, play back-to-back games on the road against teams that suck, it's more likely for players to not give it their all. Meanwhile in the NFL, every week is almost a must win and you hardly see teams loaf their way through a game.
The better comparison would be their playoff records. I don't want to put the effort right now (sorry, I'm feeling lazy), but if someone can compare the number of playoff games the Pats have won/lost, versus the number of playoff series the Lakers have won/lost, that would be more indicative of how both teams faired against top notch competition.
I hate the Lakers with a passion and obviously am a huge Pats fan, but I think the Lakers are easily the better team. Other than winning what defines greatness... and if you want to use the regular season argument, how come the Colts aren't ahead of us then?
The only argument you can make in the Pats favor is that football has a legit salary cap while in bball from what I understand doesn't really matter. Plus Pau Gasol was handed to them on a silver platter. But hey that's what the NBA is nowadays. The Pats accomplishments may be more impressive. But talking strictly which team was better it's easily the Lakers.
Did you take into account the massively questionable (i.e. fraudulent) refereeing that took place during the Lakers three-in-a-row early this decade?
You can talk spygate all you want, but it doesn't begin to compare in terms of tainting the championships, IMHO.
It's an unfair comparison because they're different sports. But if I had to chose one, it's easily the Lakers. Being a long time Lakers fan, they have flat out dominated teams in the playoffs - unlike the Patriots. In addition, the Lakers look as though they're going to capture ring #5 this decade and the Pats are going to have to settle for 3. Last but not least, the Lakers are loaded for the next several years while the Patriots are on the decline.
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Re: Greatest Team of the Decade: Pats or Lakers?
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