BradyFTW!

It's pretty sad how far a lot of people will go in order to support their assumptions. when Brady says something that they agree with, it's the word of God Himself. When Brady says something that doesn't gel with what they think, he has some outside motivation that's causing him to lie. Bottom line, we always knew that Moss was going to get slammed the second he wasn't having a record-breaking season. We're Boston fans, after all, and if there's one thing that's incredibly lame about Boston fans, it's their tendency to go over the top in tearing into their more talented players the second things go a little wrong, despite having no idea what's really going on.

Realistically, though, we'll see next week. If Moss is still starting (and he will be), then that solves it. If he's benched, then either his injury was aggravated or Belichick is sick of his attitude.

robertweathers

Big deal. See my above post. I hope it's the same situation with Maroney las year whereas he was playing poorly and IRed only to understand later that he had a broken shoulder blade.

As of right now, an injury is Moss' only excuse for his less than pedestrian production these last 4 weeks.

It seems that BB and the team (inc Brady) support him. No question hes having a tough time, but hes gotta find a way to raise his game.

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emoney_33

I am not trying to argue that his last 4 games were great or anything like that. I'm just trying to argue against the reason that he's not trying or dogging it etc...

Also his value is still pretty high in the last 4 games, even without the stats. He opens up things for others even when he's not having the most productive games.

KontradictioN

So basically, no? You don't have any concrete evidence of such. And I'm not playing stupid. I'm just doing my due diligence. I want to know how you KNOW... FOR A FACT that Brady is angry at his teammates when he just gives short, one word answers. Please present evidence as such or do not pass it off as fact.

What insinuation? Please enlighten me about what insinuation I could have made by stating that, "BB doesn't give a damn what Dungy thinks"...

First off, you're not William Shakespeare. Please stop typing and/or talking like you are.

Secondly, I'm not going out on irrelevant tangents. Dungy might be right, or he might not be. The only judge of that is time. If Moss comes out and runs over the Bills this weekend (after getting talked to by BB for having a bad game) and keeps it up into the playoffs, Dungy will be wrong. Regardless, my point was that, right or wrong, BB probably does not care in the least bit about what Dungy thinks. I'm not sure where you're having a problem understanding that (particularly since you're clearly trying to pass off this "I'm mega educated" vibe).

But, just so we're clear, let me get this straight: Do you think that BB should go against what he's always done and NOT talk to Moss or point out his bad play in a team meeting, despite the fact that he will undoubtedly do it to everyone else?

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Brono

This Moss business is, for the most part, a controversy manufactured by the media for a ratings boost. If the Pats lose, it's easy for the media to scapegoat a player who is injured or otherwise going through a rough stretch.

Bottom line: The Pats need to get into the playoffs, and a win over the Bills next week would be a big step toward that goal.

All IMHO!

robertweathers

I don't think hes dogging out of spite. I think hes dogging b/c he is indifferent/or disappointed in something. Could be that Welker has more catches. Maybe he and his agent were talking extension and the Pats balked and Randy is pulling a Manny Ramirez. Keep in mind that the Pats will typically do extensions around the bye and the Indy game was a couple of weeks after that. Wish I knew. His history and current events are my only guide. Fair or not.

No question. Arguably the most dynamic WR ever to play the game. The problem is that the team needs Randy to do more than draw double teams. They need him to finish routes and make plays-even then double teamed.

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PATSYLICIOUS

Another reason that despite all his struggles, I'll take #12 over any QB come playoff time. You can tell how pissed he was after that drop, but he will never trash a teammate to save his own @$$.

MoLewisrocks

I just posted in another thread (because I was listening as I posted in it) that Holley, who has been defending Moss all AM against the charge that he quit (admittedly semantics agrument though) just stated that he knew for a fact that Brady called Moss out in practice about a month ago and it didn't go over well and there has been a problem there ever since. Later that night Moss called Brady to tell him he had hurt Randy's feelings...

How do you deal with that.

DaedalusX

Yes, you are.
No, you want me to go on a wild Google goose chase because you're annoyed I pointed out how you're wrong.
No, you don't. You just want to get into a tit-for-tat link/quote pissing match. No interest, sorry.

The insinuation that I was arguing Belichick should listen to Dungy as opposed to observing that Dungy was right. I was not.

I see you failed both creative writing and history. I'm not speaking in Elizabethan English, so the Shakespeare dig is as nonsensical as it is petty.

Or you, apparently. Or anyone. How about you just say "I'd rather not commit to an answer on this at all" and stop posting on the topic?

And your point still made no sense in context.

I'm talking to you as clearly as possible. That you're intimidated by precise language is not my problem.

Given that he just defended Moss for ESPN, along with Brady, Bruschi and Rodney, yea, I'd say he's probably going to reinforce his support of Randy more than tear him down this week. But hey, maybe he's just being polite? That is, after all, what Belichick is known for -- indulging and placating the media.

emoney_33

Let's clarify. He knew for a fact Brady called out Moss in practice. He does NOT know for a fact there has been a "problem" because of or involving this ever since.