TeamFirst

I don't know if this is typical but Moss was the last reciever out of the tunnell in pregame warm ups. The other recievers were out there at least 20 minutes before he was.

He didn't look good yesterday. I saw 1 decent block at the beginning of the game after that it was all down hill.

BradyManny

Oh, sorry I completely misread your post - I had thought you were saying that they didn't have the chemistry/rapport back in TC.

KontradictioN

My guess is going to be the second option. BB isn't going to change the way he coaches and has coached for a few decades because of Randy Moss. He let Moss know from the get-go that he wasn't going to be treated differently than anybody else.

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DarrylS

Still wonder if Moss is hurt, and the back injury keeps him from moving easier... but we will never know that.. he looks like he is playing "stiff"...

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DaedalusX

Then you have a different problem, which is that Brady is publicly defending Moss while Belichick is apparently disciplining him as if he was just any other guy on the team.

I think Belichick is a genius. But if he isn't taking Moss' emotional fragility into consideration this week, he's doing a terrible job of coaching his sort of player. Frankly, Dungy is right on this one. Bill screwed up.

KontradictioN

And what was Brady supposed to say? "Yeah, he's dogging it. Terrible game he played. Moss looked pathetic". No. He's going to go the politically correct route. And, just my guess, but I'd venture to say that BB probably doesn't give a damn about what Tony Dungy thinks. That's just me, though...

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SVN

he will let moss know as he will let brady know for his miscues and INT and morris know for his fumbles and the merriweather for biting on the play leading to the TD and anyone else who screwed up. Dungy doesn't know how it will be handled and how the BB handles monday meetings every game or every yr. Lets not try to extrapolate what BB might do to he screwed up. If BB just ignores moss and ignores every one's mistakes in this week's game and says 'guys, just ignore the tape and lets move on to bills' then we can get wade phillips as our coach.

DaedalusX

You're wrong. When Brady is pissed with a teammate, or knows that that teammate is dogging it or really screwed up, he will say nothing or make very general comments everyone working hard. He has vigorously defended Moss today. He's doing that in the face of Moss being sent home early and the national media calling him a quitter. The difference is obvious.

I don't recall saying Belichick should care what Dungy thinks. I said that I think Dungy was right. You should learn to read.

KontradictioN

Do you have hardcore, conclusive evidence of Brady being pissed off at teammates and, hence, acting like this? Concrete evidence outside of word of mouth or something being posted on here.

Apparently, you should as well. I don't recall saying that you said Belichick should care what he thinks. I only said that I (please take note that "I" means "me", and not "you") don't think Belichick will give a damn what he thinks.

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DaedalusX

Don't play stupid. You know the difference and have seen the difference over the years. Brady's temper is well known, as is the difference between his diplomacy in the face of disgust/disappointment and his defense of another player.

Your insinuation was obvious. Perhaps if you weren't so quick to react you wouldn't be mashing the keyboard with irrelevant tangents. Belichick giving a damn or not had nothing to do with my point that Dungy was right. In the context of that predicate, your response was nonsensical.