Willie55

I'm not sure if this is common knowledge or not, but I have never heard it before.

I was just watching a piece from NFL films about Ernie Accorsi, the GM of the Giants and used to be of the Cleveland Browns and Baltimore Colts. Accorsi is the GM that drafted John Elway even though Elway said he would never go play there. A couple of days before the draft Accorsi received a telephone call from Chuck Sullivan offering John Hannah and a first round draft pick for Elway. I was surprised when I heard that.

What would have become of the Patriots organization if that trade had gone through? They had some pretty good teams mid to late 80's, with a HOF QB would they have won a Super Bowl in that time frame? Would Elway have come here? There would have been no Bledsoe.

Maybe no 1-15 and 2-14 seasons, which means Parcell probably never would have ended up here, and in turn no Belichick.

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Na_polian

Well, there's that, and the Pats organization would have had to manipulate the salary cap, in order to get other great players and keep existing great players in order to win a SB with Elway... then we'd have gotten fined by the NFL etc... woulda been a mess...

ilduce06410

my take on it is tthat elway would have gotten trampled behind the weakned patriots offensive line and gotten shell shocked. like jim plunkett.
besides i don't think elways dad would have let him go to the patriots either. not if he'd met any of the sullivans.

jczxohn1

Not to mention the weakened defense with Tippett out in those days. They were dark days, indeed. There was Andre Tippett, Garin Veris, and another starter out for season in the last exhibition game. Any one remember who the third player was? Anyway, it always reminded me of the plane crash when Richie Valens, Buddy Holly, and The Big Bopper Clarence "Frogman" Henry went down.

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Murphys95

Ronnie Lippett was the third, I believe.

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T-ShirtDynasty

Sorry, the anal-rententive 'Joel Whitburn' in me just has to interject... I hope it was a typo but, Clarence Henry and The Big Bopper (JP Richardson) were not the same person. "Frogman" was still alive and performing, to my knowledge, as recently as March of 2005.

jczxohn1

Right you are.........

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Felger started his question, "Correct me if I'm wrong," BB quickly interjected, "I can't wait--"


``The officials now are evaluating the players and their performance, I mean, that's great,'' Belichick deadpanned. ``I can't say how much that means to me, really.''

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scott99

No salary cap back in 1983. I believe it started in 1992 or later, well into Elway's career. Elway wouldn't have played for the Pats I believe. He was making the choices, and I bet the Pats weren't on his list.

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