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Old 12-14-2009, 09:58 AM   #11
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Edelman -- not exactly Welker
Aiken -- not exactly Gaffney and not exactly healthy
Watson -- makes some clutch plays but not many routine receptions
Faulk -- not as great this year as in other seasons
Morris -- not exactly Patrick Pass
Maroney -- not exactly Faulk, but rising fast

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As I said recently, the depth of this wide receiving group is just not great. While the early 2000s lacked stars at the position, some of the units were really deep. Branch, Givens, Brown, Patten and even Bethel contributed. In some sense, maybe 4 above average wide receivers is as good as 2 amazing ones. Of course, I'd rather just put 2 amazing receivers with 2 above average ones like in 2007.
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Maybe they already did. We don't really know what they have in Tate yet. Though i think they still need one more WR, even if Tate pans out.
IMO, we have a pretty good one in Tate. He showed the ability to get behind defenses when he was in. It was just that Brady couldn't hit him. If he works on his route running and perfects his knowledge of the offense, he should be a more than reliable starter. Still, Moss probably isn't going to be around after this season, so we should still look for a receiver in the later rounds.

EDIT: Let me also take a minute to gloat about the fact that I wanted the team to invest a later round pick in Mario Manningham a couple of years ago as a #3 receiver (we were just coming off of the 2007 campaign) and immediately got blasted for daring to mention that we invest anything in the offense and ignore the defense with just one pick. I was reminded that the offense was "just fine for the forseeable future" and that Manningham smoked a little weed in college (none of those guys on our team, by golly!) and had a low Wonderlic score. Manningham, in his second year, has 48 receptions for 691 yards and 4 TD's in the Giants system right now. He has only been supplanted in the starting line-up because of what Hakeem Nicks has shown over the course of the season. IMO, he would have looked good in our system as well if we were willing to work with him.
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In that case the best way to address it is get a potential #1 in 2010. It usually takes a year to develop a #1 receiver anyway. I am factoring in Brady's prime playing window also.
I see what your saying, but we cant really use one of our top picks on a WR. We have needs that are much more important right now especially on the defensive side of the ball.
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As I said recently, the depth of this wide receiving group is just not great. While the early 2000s lacked stars at the position, some of the units were really deep. Branch, Givens, Brown, Patten and even Bethel contributed. In some sense, maybe 4 above average wide receivers is as good as 2 amazing ones. Of course, I'd rather just put 2 amazing receivers with 2 above average ones like in 2007.
Bethel contributed? Bethel wouldn't have even made this team. Edelman, Stanbeck, and Aiken are all better, right now, than Bethel ever was.
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Edelman -- not exactly Welker: not exactly healthy
Aiken -- not exactly Gaffney and not exactly healthy:Gaffney? Who cares
Watson -- makes some clutch plays but not many routine receptions:his last year i hope
Faulk -- not as great this year as in other seasons: faulks fine
Morris -- not exactly Patrick Pass: Pass? Adalius on Offense
Maroney -- not exactly Faulk, but rising fast: not impressed

Fair?--silly
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Edelman -- not exactly Welker
Aiken -- not exactly Gaffney and not exactly healthy
Watson -- makes some clutch plays but not many routine receptions
Faulk -- not as great this year as in other seasons
Morris -- not exactly Patrick Pass
Maroney -- not exactly Faulk, but rising fast

Fair?
FAIR?!?!?! Do you see the receivers on the Fins?!? And you are complaining about having a HoFer and the best slot WR in the game?

GTFO of here with that nonsense. You have one of the better receiving corps in the league...
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Bethel contributed? Bethel wouldn't have even made this team. Edelman, Stanbeck, and Aiken are all better, right now, than Bethel ever was.
Bethel was a bust if there ever was one...trading up for that guy? Then trading up for Chad Jackson?? I don't think BB trusts his judgement in WRs anymore...I sure don't.

It's too bad coaches can't get their pay docked for stupid decisions like that one.
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Bethel was a bust if there ever was one...trading up for that guy? Then trading up for Chad Jackson?? I don't think BB trusts his judgement in WRs anymore...I sure don't.

It's too bad coaches can't get their pay docked for stupid decisions like that one.

How was the Chad Jackson decision bad at the time? It's really a shame with all that physical talent he had.
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Edelman -- not exactly Welker
Aiken -- not exactly Gaffney and not exactly healthy
Watson -- makes some clutch plays but not many routine receptions
Faulk -- not as great this year as in other seasons
Morris -- not exactly Patrick Pass
Maroney -- not exactly Faulk, but rising fast

Fair?
I dont think Brady has met any of them has he

He certainly doesnt see them on a sunday
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Dave Thomas had 8 catches 77 yards against cowboys. Could we have used him?
Yes, they could. I still don't know what BB was thinking when he traded Thomas away so he could get (and then discard) Michael Mitchell.
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