larryo

snarkometers on please

Of course he has lost that mystique. Hell it's been what over 3 months since he led his team to two touchdowns in the last 5 minutes to beat division rival Buffalo. What a bum.

JSn

And off goes Florio:

Tom Brady could be sliding out of the league's elite quarterbacks | ProFootballTalk.com

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To be fair to brady. he did have his go to guys every yr. Branch,brown even caldwell and gaffeney .Its jst that they were not marquee guys like moss.
Remember when the pats won those SB's everyone always had their head scratching how they win with average players probably none of whom will be in the hall of fame ? Media used to throw out the line "They dont make mistakes" which always bothered me . because they never credited the players who were playing much.
Now they turn around and say that having marquee players is bad for brady.
There has been so much attrition around brady that its hard to compare eras.He doesnt have the same coaches/players around him and he himself has gotten injured.
I dont rememeber anyone saying favre as "sliding out the league's elite quarterbacks" for all those yrs.

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exactly. Anyone know what manning has beeing doing different all yr. ? It was always the same plays to harrison and wayne. Even BB said so that they dont run a very complicated offense like the rams used to.
anyone watch the colts and saints game can see which offense is far more varied scheme wise. Still the colts offense is effective .Its because they operate at such high level of execution. Even brady has marvelled at that in the past.
sure brady can spread around but manning is spread around the ball only this yr to collie etc .In the past it was just harrison and then later wayne with play action from the stretch play with james.

olschool

Actually Manning had some pretty highly ranked defenses over those years.

That's been a mis-conception because of their playoff record.

olschool

You forgot Dallas Clark. He's a playmaker.

Satchboogie3

The Colts rarely had a good defense until recently.

Indy league ranked defense:
1998: 29th (PPG), 29th (Y/G), 28th (TO)
1999: 17th (PPG), 15th (Y/G), 27th (TO)
2000: 15th (PPG), 21st (Y/G), 25th (TO)
2001: 31st (PPG), 29th (Y/G), 23rd (TO)
2002: 7th (PPG), 8th (Y/G), 18th (TO)
2003: 20th (PPG), 11th (Y/G), 12th (TO)
2004: 29th (PPG), 29th (Y/G), 3rd (TO)
2005: 2nd (PPG), 11th (Y/G), 7th (TO)
2006: 23rd (PPG), 21st (Y/G), 21st (TO)
2007: 1st (PPG), 3rd (Y/G), 2nd (TO)
2008: 7th (PPG), 11th (Y/G), 13th (TO)
2009: 2nd (PPG), 17th (Y/G), 6th (TO)

The Colts having a good defense is relatively new.

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