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Old 12-06-2009, 04:01 PM   #1
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Default Why keep Asante in 2007 but trade Seymour this year?

This is meant neither to condemn nor to praise, but simply to analyze.

In 2007, the Patriots apparently decided that keeping Asante and paying him the franchise salary was worth the difference between the 2009 third-round compensatory pick they got for him and whatever additional compensation they might have gotten by trading him.

In 2009, despite having spent a third-round draft pick and more on Derrick Burgess, the Patriots traded away Seymour for a first-round draft pick in 2011. If we use the above logic, the Patriots saw more benefit in getting that first-rounder than they did in Seymour's potential contributions in 2009 (and the possibility that they might get a comp pick in 2011).

So: why the different outlooks?
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Old 12-06-2009, 04:02 PM   #2
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Default Re: Why keep Asante in 2007 but trade Seymour this year?

Honestly? Looking at the talent that we have on the field, Belichick might have known that we weren't good enough to go all the way with or without Seymour. That's the only thing that I can think of.
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Honestly? Looking at the talent that we have on the field, Belichick might have known that we weren't good enough to go all the way with or without Seymour. That's the only thing that I can think of.
If so I don't know why they pay a #3 for a UFA to be in Burgess.
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Default Re: Why keep Asante in 2007 but trade Seymour this year?

Probably evaluations of defensive line and cornerback depth.
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Honestly? Looking at the talent that we have on the field, Belichick might have known that we weren't good enough to go all the way with or without Seymour. That's the only thing that I can think of.
Right. I think BB knew they had something special in 2007 and wanted to keep things together. When he traded Seymour, he knew he didn't have a 2007-caliber team and was looking towards building one in 2010-12. Not trading Samuel probably hurt the 2008-09 teams.
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Default Re: Why keep Asante in 2007 but trade Seymour this year?

Was one of the league's 3 worst teams paying a #1 for Asante?
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My guess is BB felt we needed Asante alot more for '07 than we needed Seymour this year. Plenty depth at DE.
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This is meant neither to condemn nor to praise, but simply to analyze.

In 2007, the Patriots apparently decided that keeping Asante and paying him the franchise salary was worth the difference between the 2009 third-round compensatory pick they got for him and whatever additional compensation they might have gotten by trading him.

In 2009, despite having spent a third-round draft pick and more on Derrick Burgess, the Patriots traded away Seymour for a first-round draft pick in 2011. If we use the above logic, the Patriots saw more benefit in getting that first-rounder than they did in Seymour's potential contributions in 2009 (and the possibility that they might get a comp pick in 2011).

So: why the different outlooks?
Franchise Seymour and you probably won't have money for Wilfork and Mankins. He traded him because we would have lost either Seymour or Wilfork at the end. Instead he got #1 in 2011 for him...It makes sense to me.
GOD I MISS ASANTE...He is one of the best in the NFL and we let him go. I think he is giving the Eagles value for their $$
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If so I don't know why they pay a #3 for a UFA to be in Burgess.
Good point- I really dunno. I hated the Seymour trade when it happened, but I thought the Pats were good enough to go somewhere this year. Although, considering how many close losses we've had, I do think that we'd be sitting at 9-3 or 10-2 if we had Seymour, but it wouldn't surprise me if that's not how Belichick saw it
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Default Re: Why keep Asante in 2007 but trade Seymour this year?

I started a thread about Seymour earlier but it disappeared.

Anyways, I personally think that short term the trade of Seymour is the worst mistake BB has ever made. Maybe long term it will work out but this season its been so evident how much poorer the DL is without him. I considered us one of the top three lines in the league, this year I don't know, we are nowhere near the top 10 imo.
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