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Old 11-16-2009, 09:45 AM   #1
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At this point, it would take a pretty epic collapse by Indy to lose the #1 seed (just don't see them losing 4 games).

So the best case scenario for NE is the #2 seed. Will they have to go 13-3 to get it, or will 12-4 or 11-5 get it done?

The only good thing to come out of this weekend is it looks like a dogfight in the West & North. The way it is shaping up, the winner of the West will be 11-5 at best. So I think the Pats have some breathing room there, even with the loss to Denver.

Now with the North, shockingly Cincy has a 2-game lead at 7-2 and has already swept Pitt & Balto. Haven't looked at their schedule, but you can't think the Bengals will do better than 12-4, and in fact I'd be more worried about Pitt going on a run to 12-4 than Cincy.

So realistically, I think the Pats can get the #2 at 12-4, but likely need all the other division winners to be 11-5
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Old 11-16-2009, 10:10 AM   #2
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At this point, it would take a pretty epic collapse by Indy to lose the #1 seed (just don't see them losing 4 games).

So the best case scenario for NE is the #2 seed. Will they have to go 13-3 to get it, or will 12-4 or 11-5 get it done?

The only good thing to come out of this weekend is it looks like a dogfight in the West & North. The way it is shaping up, the winner of the West will be 11-5 at best. So I think the Pats have some breathing room there, even with the loss to Denver.

Now with the North, shockingly Cincy has a 2-game lead at 7-2 and has already swept Pitt & Balto. Haven't looked at their schedule, but you can't think the Bengals will do better than 12-4, and in fact I'd be more worried about Pitt going on a run to 12-4 than Cincy.

So realistically, I think the Pats can get the #2 at 12-4, but likely need all the other division winners to be 11-5
they would have to run the table. cincy's schedule outside of minn and another tough team I can't think of leave no room for error. We can run the table the rest of the way as the oppoinents other than NO are not too bad.
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Probably have to run the table. Cincy is 5-0 in the division with a game against Cleveland left and 2 losses in the AFC, and we alread have 3 AFC losses and a divisional loss, so there's a good chance they win the tiebreaker if we end up with equal records. Cincy has games against Oakland, Cleveland, Detroit, KC and the Jets. Their 2 tough games are away at Minnesota and SD in consecutive weeks. Unless they have a real collapse I can't see them being worse than 12-4. So it will realistically take 13-3 to have a decent shot at a bye.
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Right now I would just worry about winning the division. We have a tough division game vs the Jets who always play us tough in Foxborro. If we lose, the division and a playoff spot could be in jeapordy.
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Probably have to run the table. Cincy is 5-0 in the division with a game against Cleveland left and 2 losses in the AFC, and we alread have 3 AFC losses and a divisional loss, so there's a good chance they win the tiebreaker if we end up with equal records. Cincy has games against Oakland, Cleveland, Detroit, KC and the Jets. Their 2 tough games are away at Minnesota and SD in consecutive weeks. Unless they have a real collapse I can't see them being worse than 12-4. So it will realistically take 13-3 to have a decent shot at a bye.
You're confusing the tiebreakers.

The first tiebreaker is ALWAYS head-to-head, if applicable.

Since it's not, the next tiebreaker for teams in different divisions is conference records, not division records. The Bengals still win at the moment: they're 5-2, the Patriots 4-3.
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Run of the table, and some help will get us the second seed..
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Who said they cant run the table... Did anyone see the Saints game yesterdaii, they came close to a loss... I think we beat the Saints but if they beat us, they're goin 16-0 wit the colts and i already see the superbowl match... sorrii but the nfl is a business...
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Impossible to tell, but I would guess that 12-4 would get us the bye.

Cincy is for real, but they could potentially lose to any team on their sched (struggled to beat CLE) especially if Benson misses time. I could see them finishing 11-5.

Denver/SD/Pitt will finish 11-5 at best IMO.
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It is too early to tell. We still have almost a half of a season to go. By the end of the season, the Pats could even have HFA (although nearly impossible save a Colts complete collapse).

The Pats are one game out of the second seed right now and anything can happen. The Bengals did lose to Houston. So they could lose to anyone one of about 4-5 teams left on their schedule.
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They may have to. Assuming that Cinci plays as well as they have over their next 3, they should go to into their last 4 @10-2 w/ 3 of 4 on the road vs MN, SD, NYJ and home vs KC.

IMO Pats are looking at 11-5....w/ losses to the Saints and another mystery team.
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