OT: Porter's Motivational Speech to the Patriots "Last Straw" before benching - New England Patriots Forums

JoeSixPat · 11-14-2009, 09:38 PM

Yeah I know there's a thread on this in the football forum but the notion that Porter's smack talk against the Patriots is why Parcells and Sparano benched him needs to be chortled about a bit more

Porter's piehole has finally overcome his production | ProFootballTalk.com

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The thinking in some circles is that Porter's misguided decision to stir up the Patriots (quarterback Tom Brady has said that the veteran defender's verbal ramblings added extra motivation in their Week Nine game) was the last straw, and that Porter will remain on ice unless and until the rotation of Jason Taylor, Matt Roth, and Cameron Wake doesn't work.

RayClay · 11-14-2009, 10:00 PM

You know that made sense until I read a comment below.

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I have an alternate theory. The Dolphins took a look at the Bucs and decided the game would probably be well in hand and the looked at Porter and decided that he wasn't going to get back to dominating as a pass rusher until his hamstring really had a chance to heal up. So they give him the week off and get him ready for the rest of the season which they will need to win a lot of their remaining games to get in.

Hmm, made me reread, then look at the byline [Florio]. Is this fact, or just...the usual stuff?

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As folks around the league try to make sense of the sudden decision from Dolphins coach Tony Sparano to deactivate linebacker Joey Porter, the theory that makes the most sense is that the team was willing to tolerate his propensity for popping off only when he was producing at a high level.

The thinking in some circles is that Porter's misguided decision to stir up the Patriots (quarterback Tom Brady has said that the veteran defender's verbal ramblings added extra motivation in their Week Nine game) was the last straw, and that Porter will remain on ice unless and until the rotation of Jason Taylor, Matt Roth, and Cameron Wake doesn't work.

He's a master. This whole article is made up. Unless you credit the unnamed "little birds" where is there anything but speculation on Florio's part?

I'm willing to admit I'm wrong if i missed something.

Doesn't mean he's not right. Just means he made it up.

***patchick*** · 11-14-2009, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RayClay

YHe's a master. This whole article is made up. Unless you credit the unnamed "little birds" where is there anything but speculation on Florio's part?

I'm willing to admit I'm wrong if i missed something.

Doesn't mean he's not right. Just means he made it up.

That's some good reading, RayClay. You're right, there's actually no reporting going on in that story at all.

fnordcircle · 11-14-2009, 11:25 PM

If a friend of Florio's says 'I bet the benched him because of his comments about the Pats' then that is technically the 'thinking in some circles' right there.

PatsFan24 · 11-14-2009, 11:25 PM

good the guy is an a-hole and i hope the fish cut his ass.

RayClay · 11-15-2009, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by fnordcircle

If a friend of Florio's says 'I bet the benched him because of his comments about the Pats' then that is technically the 'thinking in some circles' right there.

Or if Florio is walking around in circles thinking about Joey Porter.

JoeSixPat · 11-15-2009, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by RayClay

You know that made sense until I read a comment below.

Hmm, made me reread, then look at the byline [Florio]. Is this fact, or just...the usual stuff?

He's a master. This whole article is made up. Unless you credit the unnamed "little birds" where is there anything but speculation on Florio's part?

I'm willing to admit I'm wrong if i missed something.

Doesn't mean he's not right. Just means he made it up.

Yeah - that's pretty much classic Florio... and his little birds are right enough to make his theories a very real possibility... and should the little birdies be making things up well, that in and of itself is interesting because it just showcases how many within the Dolphins have had it with him (i.e. they'd leak this rumor even though he's sitting primarilly for other reasons.)

That being said, the Dolphins have no less than SIX teams ahead of them as they attempt to claim a wild card spot. It doesn't matter who they're playing.. they desparately need a win and Tampa's coming off a win themselves.

I tend to agree that if Porter could play, he would play... but if he can't, and you're Parcells, why not leak this rumor and get the added benefit of teaching a key player how NOT to motivate an opponent to beat you?

***Rob0729*** · 11-15-2009, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RayClay

You know that made sense until I read a comment below.

Hmm, made me reread, then look at the byline [Florio]. Is this fact, or just...the usual stuff?

He's a master. This whole article is made up. Unless you credit the unnamed "little birds" where is there anything but speculation on Florio's part?

I'm willing to admit I'm wrong if i missed something.

Doesn't mean he's not right. Just means he made it up.

Personally, it made sense even after seeing that post. I can see them selling Porter on sitting out due to coach's decision now.

"Joey, we are going to kill the Bucs anyway and you need to heal up. Instead of having you sit out due to injury though, we are going to say it is a coach's decision so the rest of the league talk about how you are an arse and we are pissed off at you. And on top of that, if the league finds out that it was an injury thing and not a coach's decision, the team gets a fine. This is a lose-lose for everyone. You game?"

If it was because of them sitting out due to him not being 100%, they would have made it due to injury. No team would hang their player out to dry by saying they are held out for a coach's decision if they are being held out for health reason. A coach's decision is always implies that the player is in the doghouse.

The fact of the matter is that neither Sporano nor Parcells like Porter's trash talking. Last year they had to put up with it (like when Sporano tried to pull Porter out of the game because he got a personal foul and he refused come out) because he was a sack machine. This year he is been playing pretty poorly. So his mouth is far more a liabilty than his play on the field is an asset.

***Gwedd*** · 11-15-2009, 09:13 AM

All I know is that Porter seems to be trying to take over where TO left off: Team Killer.

Regardless, I doubt he'll ever change. He's been this way for far too long to start adding some humility to his makeup, let alone thinking about what he wants to say BEFORE he says it.

Patspsycho · 11-15-2009, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob0729

Personally, it made sense even after seeing that post. I can see them selling Porter on sitting out due to coach's decision now.

"Joey, we are going to kill the Bucs anyway and you need to heal up. Instead of having you sit out due to injury though, we are going to say it is a coach's decision so the rest of the league talk about how you are an arse and we are pissed off at you. And on top of that, if the league finds out that it was an injury thing and not a coach's decision, the team gets a fine. This is a lose-lose for everyone. You game?"

If it was because of them sitting out due to him not being 100%, they would have made it due to injury. No team would hang their player out to dry by saying they are held out for a coack's decision if they are being held out for health reason. A coach's decision is always implies that the player is in the doghouse.

The fact of the matter is that neither Sporano nor Parcells like Porter's trash talking. Last year they had to put up with it (like when Sporano tried to pull Porter out of the game because he got a personal foul and he refused come out) because he was a sack machine. This year he is been playing pretty poorly. So his mouth is far more a liabilty than his play on the field is an asset.

This is the assessment I agree with the post. No sense in covering anything up with a "coach's decision" because then you have to deal with the media fallout for a long time to come (a.k.a., "spygate" or Moss being some kind of "spoilsport.") because you know those happened a long time ago, but the media will always bring it up until the cows come home.