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***Rob0729*** · 11-13-2009, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by robertweathers

Agreed. Simmons may be more credible, but Big O came across like the accused defending himself- which is exactly what he should do.

I know it's a quasi long standing feud of sorts but what touched Simmons off to start this whole thing?

Last week on the Big Show they were trashing Simmons for all his columns over the years where he was critical of WEEI and specifically the Big Show. He was supposed to go on the Big Show for an olive branch thing and they canceled on him the last minute. Apparently, Simmons felt they were screwing with him since he is an ESPN guy and can only go on local radio on WEEI. Simmons did find a loophole in that ESPN allows him to go on any radio station if he is promoting his book and not ESPN.

***Deus Irae*** · 11-13-2009, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob0729

Last week on the Big Show they were trashing Simmons for all his columns over the years where he was critical of WEEI and specifically the Big Show. He was supposed to go on the Big Show for an olive branch thing and they canceled on him the last minute. Apparently, Simmons felt they were screwing with him since he is an ESPN guy and can only go on local radio on WEEI. Simmons did find a loophole in that ESPN allows him to go on any radio station if he is promoting his book and not ESPN.

Actually, that's not how it happened.

***Rob0729*** · 11-13-2009, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MoLewisrocks

I heard the segment. Simmons came off like a whiny, tempermental little biatch, which is apparently what he's increasingly become over the years. Huge ego for a guy who got nothing but opionions to hang his hat on, voice for print (gives Mazz a run for his money...). The funny part was Felger alternately lapping it up for his own ratings and trying to talk him in off the bridge burning ledge. Felgie knows when all else fails, Glen will still find a place for you to feed your family in between failed gigs...

FWIW, Glen is exactly right, pot and kettle.

Felgie doesn't have to worry about Glenn giving him a place for him to feed his family. Felger and Mazz were third in the Boston radio market for afternoon drive right behind the Big Show at second for the month of October. Felger won't have to looking for a new radio job for a long, long while at this rate.

Felger has decided not to take shots at Ordway though. It seems that even when callers call in and trash WEEI, most of the Sports Hub are trying to take the high road. Same can be said with the folks on WEEI. Although Felger is still a target for the Big Show, but nothing more than when he was on the WEEI roster.

patsox23 · 11-13-2009, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BradyManny2344

I might express my displeasure with EEI from time to time, but Ordway is way better at his job than SportsGuy.

I'm not sure you realize what Sports Guy's job is if you hold this opinion. Simmons is, in my view, VERY good at his job. Ordway and the 'EEI folks are largely horrendous, imo. Not "D & C" horrenous, but prett darn bad.

***Rob0729*** · 11-13-2009, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Deus Irae

Actually, that's not how it happened.

Well, that is what Simmons said. Of course Ordway would say something different. I do know that the Big Show did trash Simmons on the radio last week because I heard it. I do know that Simmons was supposed to tentatively go on the Big Show since they teased it as a possibility. What really happened we will never know.

BradyManny · 11-13-2009, 02:31 PM

MoLewisRocks is right though - even if you agree with SportsGuy's criticisms of EEI, whatever bad things he wants to say about them can be said about SportsGuy and then some. SportsGuy's columns are predicated on ripping into people, for him to accuse EEI of being a bunch of bullies - what a joke!

SportsGuy has sucked since around the 2004 WS. He sold out, been living in Cali too long, and frankly, doesn't know jack about sports and doesn't realize it. At least the Big O has some sense of the boundaries of his sports knowledge for certain sports and has the sense to defer to guests at times. SportsGuy is a mess. Honestly, I know he's real popular with the male 14-21 crowd, and I fit into that at one point when he was getting real popular. And I used to be a huge fan of him, but as a sport fan, you quickly outgrow him.

I'd pay good money to make SportsGuy go away, or at least stop associating himself with Boston sports.

BradyManny · 11-13-2009, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by patsox23

I'm not sure you realize what Sports Guy's job is if you hold this opinion. Simmons is, in my view, VERY good at his job. Ordway and the 'EEI folks are largely horrendous, imo. Not "D & C" horrenous, but prett darn bad.

I don't think any of them are great. But the lesser of evils would be the Big Show. How is Simmons good at his job? He's not a talented writer, he's not knowledgeable on sports, he's extremely out of touch with Boston sports and he has the attention span & maturity of a 14 year old. He appeals to a certain crowd, and maybe he does that well, but he's about six years removed from writing anything well. I don't care how many hits he gets, or how popular he is as an ESPN writer, his stuff is crap now. To think he considers himself an authority on basketball makes me want to vomit. I doubt Simmons has even stepped on a basketball court in his life.

***Rob0729*** · 11-13-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BradyManny2344

MoLewisRocks is right though - even if you agree with SportsGuy's criticisms of EEI, whatever bad things he wants to say about them can be said about SportsGuy and then some. SportsGuy's columns are predicated on ripping into people, for him to accuse EEI of being a bunch of bullies - what a joke!

SportsGuy has sucked since around the 2004 WS. He sold out, been living in Cali too long, and frankly, doesn't know jack about sports and doesn't realize it. At least the Big O has some sense of the boundaries of his sports knowledge for certain sports and has the sense to defer to guests at times. SportsGuy is a mess. Honestly, I know he's real popular with the male 14-21 crowd, and I fit into that at one point when he was getting real popular. And I used to be a huge fan of him, but as a sport fan, you quickly outgrow him.

I'd pay good money to make SportsGuy go away, or at least stop associating himself with Boston sports.

I don't disagree with you that Simmons does a lot of the things he rips into Ordway about, but he has been critical of Ordway for other aspects of his show. I think both guys get paid to be critical of people in sports and the media. So ripping on each other is fair game. I think both have done their share of hitting below the belt though (at least sorting through both sides of the story).

chris_in_sunnyvale · 11-13-2009, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by oldskool138

Bill Simmons even slams EEI on page 2 of this interview.

Bill Simmons | Books | The A.V. Club

5 stars for this link alone. Great interview.

Disclaimer: Huge Simmons fan, here, despite his chicken-little attitude towards the Pats and his poor showing after Spygate.

Regards,
Chris

***Deus Irae*** · 11-13-2009, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob0729

Well, that is what Simmons said. Of course Ordway would say something different. I do know that the Big Show did trash Simmons on the radio last week because I heard it. I do know that Simmons was supposed to tentatively go on the Big Show since they teased it as a possibility. What really happened we will never know.

No. Given that I actually heard the Ordway commentary on the air, I already know that it did not happen in the manner you described.