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***LeonPowe*** · 10-17-2009, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by mgteich

Maybe the offense is so aweful that the defense needs to be more aggresive and do better than being a top 10 defense and to hold the defenses to 17 points a game. If that is the case, then changes will need to be made in game plans.

This is an offense that should be putting up 30 points per game against nearly everyone. Bend but don't break is fine when you've got a 31-10 lead, but it's not okay in overtime.

SidelineSid · 10-17-2009, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by letekro

Because Marshall and Royal are big plays waiting to happen. If you miss a jam it could be six. You don't have that problem with the Ravens' crappy receivers. With the Pats ahead it made sense to play conservatively on D. Since we would've won if our offense could've generated a measly FG in the second half, I think the defensive plan was sound.

I understand what you're saying. It makes perfect sense. But consider this: Why not take a chance once in a while? We have Brandon Meriweather in the back field. Orton does manage to get the ball down field, we have the personnel to either knock it down or pick it off. Also, Orton's down field accuracy has been questioned. He is very good at throwing the short routes, but the long ball is not his strong suit.

While we did marginalize their run game, we did not stop the passing game. We played into their hands by simply making Orton pass the ball. Instead, we should have challenged Orton to move the ball while he was being pressured. If his only open receiver is 25 yards down field, but he has a 250lbs line backer breathing down his neck and he has to throw that ball off his back foot, he most likely won't be able to make that pass.

***patsfaninpittsburgh*** · 10-17-2009, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SidelineSid

I understand what you're saying. It makes perfect sense. But consider this: Why not take a chance once in a while? We have Brandon Meriweather in the back field. Orton does manage to get the ball down field, we have the personnel to either knock it down or pick it off. Also, Orton's down field accuracy has been questioned. He is very good at throwing the short routes, but the long ball is not his strong suit.

While we did marginalize their run game, we did not stop the passing game. We played into their hands by simply making Orton pass the ball. Instead, we should have challenged Orton to move the ball while he was being pressured. If his only open receiver is 25 yards down field, but he has a 250lbs line backer breathing down his neck and he has to throw that ball off his back foot, he most likely won't be able to make that pass.

Scheme and adjustments are always available and should be reviewed. I would bet bifandan femine things that BB would make some different adjustments.

The question is:

Is the defense outdated? Well, no.

Someone should ask Baldinger the Clown why he said Baltimore's defense is so
dominant the week before the Pat's game.

Someone should ask Baldy the Clown where Cincy got the genius idea to bracket Mson and where Bills opponents got the idea to shut down TO/Evans

Baldy the Clown should explain why he has been creaming himself talking up the SF defense and why they gave up 45 points in SF. Yet somehow the "outmoded" defense limits them to10.

These are "pundits". In other words, they are too stupid to do anything else in football and gather a check. They have zero way of following 32 teams so they say stupid things to get ratings and a paycheck.

Bledsoe11 · 10-17-2009, 01:12 PM

I'm not worried at all about this defense. They have struggled in the past to beat guys like Jake Plummer and Jay Feeley, and it looks like Kyle Orton is in that same mold. Truth is, there just aren't very many QBs in this league patient and accurate enough to take advantage of what NE gives them.

JSn · 10-17-2009, 01:56 PM

Didn't anyone hear how McDaniel's was getting the D to expose themselves according to Bruschi? Makes a lot of sense and needs adjustments.

Seau is also coming to call formation changes imo.

NYCPatsFan · 10-17-2009, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SidelineSid

I understand what you're saying. It makes perfect sense. But consider this: Why not take a chance once in a while? We have Brandon Meriweather in the back field. Orton does manage to get the ball down field, we have the personnel to either knock it down or pick it off. Also, Orton's down field accuracy has been questioned. He is very good at throwing the short routes, but the long ball is not his strong suit.

While we did marginalize their run game, we did not stop the passing game. We played into their hands by simply making Orton pass the ball. Instead, we should have challenged Orton to move the ball while he was being pressured. If his only open receiver is 25 yards down field, but he has a 250lbs line backer breathing down his neck and he has to throw that ball off his back foot, he most likely won't be able to make that pass.

I recommend that you read what Tedy Bruschi had to say. It might influence you to wait and see what happens for a few more games.

captain stone · 10-17-2009, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SVN

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Baldinger is one of the best ex-jock analysts out there. He's smart, he studies the league, he has no axes to grind, and he communicates well. What Baldy should have also mentioned, is that our offense is more out-dated than our defense. In fact, our HC may himself be out-dated.