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***Box_O_Rocks*** · 12-25-2005, 10:16 PM

http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbc...512250312/1002

This team will be a challenge to close the regular season against, and the Pats' toughest division opponent next season. Forget the Colts, this will be the biggest rivalry again.

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"I'm very excited," tight end Randy McMichael said. "This is one of those things where you just can't wait. You hate that your season has to end early, but you're so excited about the potential of next year.

"You want to get back to work early. You want to start working out in January, so you can get ready for next year. We're going to be one of those teams where you don't want to come down to Miami, or you don't want to see us come to your house."
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"To just run off five wins in a row is hard with any team, no matter who you play," Dolphins defensive end David Bowens said. "But I think the edge that we have is we have an attitude. I think Nick has created that, the players have bought into it and we're not accepting losing."
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...that's what life is like for the Dolphins right now. It's like they're kids again, having fun playing in the street.

"It's just nice to win," linebacker Zach Thomas said. "During the week, it's such a drag when you're losing. It makes it work. Going over the last five weeks, it's really been fun. Guys are coming together. We're enjoying football, but we're working and understanding the defense a little better -- and that's why we're playing better.

"Earlier on, we were making mistakes, not knowing where our help is and busting coverages. When you know this scheme, it can be dominating. That's why I've been enjoying it."
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Saturday's win not only marked Miami's first five-game winning streak since 1999, but it also assured the Dolphins of finishing at least 8-8, if not 9-7.

It also means that Saban will continue his run of never having a losing season as a head coach.Not that he ever looked at it that way.

"It's not important to me," he said. "We all like winning. The fun of this is a job well done, as I've said many times. The purpose of what we do is to have success. We focused a lot this year on the process of what you need to do to be successful. I think this team bought into that and has a belief system in that right now which has been beneficial to how we've completed and played."

hwc · 12-26-2005, 12:26 AM

Yeah. But, the fly in the ointment is that Saban doesn't have a QB. Kinda tough to win week in and week out in the National Football League without a QB.

***Box_O_Rocks*** · 12-26-2005, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by hwc

Yeah. But, the fly in the ointment is that Saban doesn't have a QB. Kinda tough to win week in and week out in the National Football League without a QB.

True enough, but they know that as well if not better then we do and have a full off-season (thank goodness!

) and salary cap room to address that little issue.

oldrover · 12-26-2005, 08:05 AM

Biggest omen for Fin fans: Miami didn't lose in December this year for the first time in two decades.

***Box_O_Rocks*** · 12-26-2005, 08:41 AM

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Biggest omen for Fin fans: Miami didn't lose in December this year for the first time in two decades.

Yeh, that one sounded awful familiar and awful scary.

hwc · 12-26-2005, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Box_O_Rocks

True enough, but they know that as well if not better then we do and have a full off-season (thank goodness!

) and salary cap room to address that little issue.

I'm not positive, but I think it was Saban who launched into the media about how NFL QBs don't grow on trees and that it's not that easy to go find one just because you need one.

IMO, finding a winning NFL QB is like catching lightning in a bottle.

***Box_O_Rocks*** · 12-26-2005, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by hwc

I'm not positive, but I think it was Saban who launched into the media about how NFL QBs don't grow on trees and that it's not that easy to go find one just because you need one.

IMO, finding a winning NFL QB is like catching lightning in a bottle.

No doubt, but Saban does have an advantage, he's building a winning system that would be atractive to a FA QB, his OC is running a QBs wet dream offense, and Saban is a proven winner. If you were a young hotshot QB with upside and they knocked on your door, you'd be very tempted.

If there is a viable FA available, Miami has a good shot. If they need to trade or shoot craps in the draft, things become more problematic. Either way, we know his mediocre QB won 8 games on a rebuilding team, shore up that defense and O-line, get a solid number 2 WR and they are a playoff contender.

Flying Fungi · 12-26-2005, 11:48 AM

The only possible reason that McMichael should have any confidence against NE is because his owner, Rodney Harrison, will be on the sidelines.

***R_T26*** · 12-26-2005, 12:22 PM

Look, Miami has looked good recently, but they seem just like the Bills from last year. Mularkey was considered an up & coming coach. Good defense, good running game, Bledsoe as the qb, they ended the season hot @9-7. People were predicting them to make that leap etc. They ended up being awful this year. The dolphins played a last place schedule this year and played with a nothing to lose mentality. But its not like the Dolphins have been crap for years. They are basically getting back to what they were, a middle of the pack 9-10 win team who would be one and done in the playoffs. I think that team is made up of chokers. McMichael's and Chambers are good players, but ive seen them fumble and drop passes at the worst times, and one of them was so intimadated by harriosn 2 years ago, he didnt even bother to block him allowing rodney to force a fumble on fiedler. Plus Saban would scare me if I was a Miami fan, because he seems to have this win now mentality, but tries to pretend he doesnt when they were losing. Their D-line is old, their secondary is not very good, and their best players madison and schulters, both may be gone after this year. There is talk that saban may go after owens in the offseason, he brought back ricky. i dont think he cares about the locker room etc. Just win now.

hwc · 12-26-2005, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by R_T26

Look, Miami has looked good recently, but they seem just like the Bills from last year. Mularkey was considered an up & coming coach. Good defense, good running game, Bledsoe as the qb, they ended the season hot @9-7.

Exactly. Don't get me wrong. I expect Saban to field a competitive AFC East team

However, the dynamics of the NFL make it a lot easier to look good for a short stretch than to put together a consistent winner. What happens with a new coaching regime is that opposing coaches don't really have a complete gamebook to plot tendencies.

It's like the dink 'n dunk Pats of 2001. By the following year, defenses had started to take way the short stuff.

Running the ball and defense are great. But, I do not believe that you can consistently win the NFL without an NFL passing game. And, you can't have an NFL passing game without an NFL quarterback...something the Dolphins do not have.