How do the Pats stop the wildcat? - New England Patriots Forums

atomdomb · 10-13-2009, 08:36 AM

Miami gashed a real good jets D last night. The jet line and backers could not and did not get off their blocks. Ronnie is perfect in finding the hole and he rarely gets less than 6 yards when running out the wildcat. I have hope for our D. Our D-line has to step up.

I think that the jet linebackers as a unit are the best in the conference, maybe the league, but their line is average. Jenkins is a monster but outside of him are they really that good? Wilfork and Jenkins are even. Jenkins plays the pass better, Wilfork the run. After that we have Warren, Green, Pryor, Brace, and Wright. Also, a huge gap filler in Sands hopefully. The jets have Ellis, Douglas, Pouha, Devito, Pitoitua. Both teams have monsters but we are slightly bigger in the second unit and I think we have an edge in talent.

So can we stop the wildcat? Please don't reference last year because this is a different phins O-line. They didn't man handle anyone last year (except for us in game one) like they did last night.

***ausbacker*** · 10-13-2009, 08:37 AM

You obviously didn't watch the game in Miami last season?

***weswelker#83*** · 10-13-2009, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ausbacker

You obviously didn't watch the game in Miami last season?

That was the first thing that came to my mind .

letekro · 10-13-2009, 08:57 AM

If they're still in contention at that point, I fully expect them to break out a significant Pat White package for the Pats game. I'm a little worried about that possibility.

***ForThoseAboutToRock*** · 10-13-2009, 08:58 AM

Agree with you that the Miami rush attack out of the wildcat formation was pretty spectacular. It's smart of them to just take the QB off the field entirely to provide for an extra blocker. Also looked like their fullback is one of the biggest reasons they could pull off 5+ yards per attempt... he seemed to blow up whomever was assigned to that particular gap and let the RB get into the second level of the defense.

There were a lot of really impressive offensive plays by both teams in last night's 4th quarter. It was very enjoyable to watch. Sanchez seems to throw a very accurate deep ball, and Henne wasn't shabby at all either. Seeing those 2 hit receivers effectively when they've got like 7-8 starts between them makes me even more frustrated every time I hear someone on the Patriots offense complain about not being "on the same page." That's certainly the catchphrase copout of the season thus far...

Garbanza · 10-13-2009, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ForThoseAboutToRock

Agree with you that the Miami rush attack out of the wildcat formation was pretty spectacular. It's smart of them to just take the QB off the field entirely to provide for an extra blocker. Also looked like their fullback is one of the biggest reasons they could pull off 5+ yards per attempt... he seemed to blow up whomever was assigned to that particular gap and let the RB get into the second level of the defense.

There were a lot of really impressive offensive plays by both teams in last night's 4th quarter. It was very enjoyable to watch. Sanchez seems to throw a very accurate deep ball, and Henne wasn't shabby at all either. Seeing those 2 hit receivers effectively when they've got like 7-8 starts between them makes me even more frustrated every time I hear someone on the Patriots offense complain about not being "on the same page." That's certainly the catchphrase copout of the season thus far...

We have BINGO!!!

Btw, Henne was 20 of 26 and Sanches was 12 of 24. Henne 'aint no slouch and does not have the pressure that "Sanchize" has.

***weswelker#83*** · 10-13-2009, 09:36 AM

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***ForThoseAboutToRock*** · 10-13-2009, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Garbanza

We have BINGO!!!

Btw, Henne was 20 of 26 and Sanches was 12 of 24. Henne 'aint no slouch and does not have the pressure that "Sanchize" has.

Glad you agree... not being on the same page has to be coaching, right? Playcalling? Inaccurate throws?

I'm sorry, I don't mean to threadjack.

On topic: I think the Dolphins showed last night that their use of the wildcat really stunts a lot of the things that make the Ryan defense effective: the players in motion and the blitz.

SVN · 10-13-2009, 10:21 AM

more than the wildcat now the fins have a real qb who can throw the deep ball. so its more of a challege. best way to stop the wildcat would be to score fast ,get ahead and see how they handle it. miami was never down by more than a FG last night i think

TommyBrady12 · 10-13-2009, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by atomdomb

Miami gashed a real good jets D last night. The jet line and backers could not and did not get off their blocks. Ronnie is perfect in finding the hole and he rarely gets less than 6 yards when running out the wildcat. I have hope for our D. Our D-line has to step up.

I think that the jet linebackers as a unit are the best in the conference, maybe the league, but their line is average. Jenkins is a monster but outside of him are they really that good? Wilfork and Jenkins are even. Jenkins plays the pass better, Wilfork the run. After that we have Warren, Green, Pryor, Brace, and Wright. Also, a huge gap filler in Sands hopefully. The jets have Ellis, Douglas, Pouha, Devito, Pitoitua. Both teams have monsters but we are slightly bigger in the second unit and I think we have an edge in talent.

So can we stop the wildcat? Please don't reference last year because this is a different phins O-line. They didn't man handle anyone last year (except for us in game one) like they did last night.

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